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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Okay, on the incredibly miniscule, sub-atomically small chance you're not trolling, here's why you're link was pants on head retarded. And just for the record, you could have spared yourself the embarrassment (unless you're trolling, in which case you're achieving your objective right now) by first going to wikipedia to understand discrimination.

    Your decision to link to the DP home page was poo-in-hair stupid because Christians aren't being prevented from participating on Debate Politics!

    Do you understand that now, or do you need a six year old to draw a picture for you?
    And again, all that you're trying to do is narrow down the definition of discrimination. Sorry, but not working with me. Might with others. But I'm not that nave. But here's the funny thing. Christians, and other religious minded folks were being prevented from discussing their religion by people that kept heckling them and denouncing them and their beliefs. Not one single Christian or any other religious minded person could have a decent discussion about their religion or other religions without someone making such an issue of it that the threads inevitably degraded into garbage and the original purpose of the thread got lost. Even when Christians were simply talking about different aspects of the Bible and not denouncing anyone or being asses or anything else they would inevitably be interrupted by those that hate religion and their discussions would get drowned out. So much so that that the Moderators had to separate Religion and Philosophy and put the religion section under a special rule set. So in essence they were essentially being prevented from debating religion here at DP.

    Oh sure, they could still post here at DP about pretty much anything else. But they couldn't post here about religion because they would be drowned out. It's much akin to LGBT's being able to live together but never marry. They can do part of something, but not all of it. Another example that is much akin to this is where anti-gun folks try to make a claim that so long as you have a gun then your gun rights aren't being violated. Being able to exercise only part of something because someone else won't let you exercise the other part is a part of the very essence of what me and you are talking about. Right?
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Uncle Sal is gay. That's kind of why I showed him this thread.

    You haven't demonstrated how you as a Christian are being discriminated against. Have you ever been denied housing because you are a Christian? I've been denied housing because I am black. How about being denied employment because of your religion?I know what it's like being denied a job because of my color. How many times have you been stopped by the cops for "driving while Christian"? And let's not go into all the b.s. me and my wife still go through for being an inter-racial married couple. Do you really want to get into a pissing contest about discrimination with a guy who was a young lad in the Deep South in the 50's and 60's? I agree with Cardinal in that you don't know what real discrimination is.
    Why do you think that I'm Christian? Because I'm saying that they are being discriminated against? Guess what, I'm not Christian. If you do a quick search of my posts on religion you will find that I have stated previously that I personally am against all forms of organized religion.

    I'll admit that I did assume with your Uncle. And I do apologize for that. But in my defense you only mentioned racial discrimination.

    As for me being discriminated against? Yes I have been discriminated against. I've been denied state health insurance at the welfare office because I was a single white guy aged 24 (at the time). And yes, I was specifically told that by the welfare office woman I was talking to. I've also been denied jobs due to my criminal history. I've also been denied housing due to my criminal history. I am also denied my right to own a gun for self protection because of my criminal history. I know what discrimination is. I know that discrimination comes in far more forms than just those handled by affirmative action laws and somebodies narrow view of what discrimination is. Perhaps I know what it is better than either you or Cardinal because of the ways in which I've been discriminated against that isn't protected by the laws.

    So yeah, lets go ahead and get into a pissing contest. I guarantee you that I'm no push over.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sure: Link
    A link to the forum proves that christians are discriminated against? Oh man, that is side slapping funny. Get back to us when you actually have something.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So anonymous people on the internet, not taking crap from other anonymous people on the internet equates to discrimination, but only if it's on a religious topic and not on a political topic???

    Look at the abortion forum or gun forum...is there discrimination happening there????

    How exactly were other people taking crap when someone religious was talking about aspects of their own book?
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    A link to the forum proves that christians are discriminated against? Oh man, that is side slapping funny. Get back to us when you actually have something.
    Read the following posts after than one ok? See if you can see what I'm saying better than Cardinal.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by rationality View Post
    Do you think they are?
    Conservative Christians are the only religious/cultural group whom it is permissible to mock publicly. I'm agnostic, but I know unfair treatment when I see it.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Read the following posts after than one ok? See if you can see what I'm saying better than Cardinal.
    I'm not here to do your homework for you. Either you provide evidence of direct discrimination or you do not... so far you have not. I see you twisting and turning about nonsense on a forum, but all that is meaningless. I want real world examples here in the USA.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why do you think that I'm Christian? Because I'm saying that they are being discriminated against? Guess what, I'm not Christian. If you do a quick search of my posts on religion you will find that I have stated previously that I personally am against all forms of organized religion.

    I'll admit that I did assume with your Uncle. And I do apologize for that. But in my defense you only mentioned racial discrimination.

    As for me being discriminated against? Yes I have been discriminated against. I've been denied state health insurance at the welfare office because I was a single white guy aged 24 (at the time). And yes, I was specifically told that by the welfare office woman I was talking to. I've also been denied jobs due to my criminal history. I've also been denied housing due to my criminal history. I am also denied my right to own a gun for self protection because of my criminal history. I know what discrimination is. I know that discrimination comes in far more forms than just those handled by affirmative action laws and somebodies narrow view of what discrimination is. Perhaps I know what it is better than either you or Cardinal because of the ways in which I've been discriminated against that isn't protected by the laws.

    So yeah, lets go ahead and get into a pissing contest. I guarantee you that I'm no push over.
    So you are being discriminated not because of your beliefs,but because you were once a criminal. Maybe you shouldn't have committed crimes in the past.The past have a way of coming back and haunting people. That lady from the welfare office should have been fired. I work with a prison work-release program providing employment in my restaurants and catering company to give model prisoners a second chance in life.

    I was never a criminal,and never been arrested for committing a crime. Yet I've still been discriminated many times throughout the decades.If you accuse Cardinal and others of narrowing down the definition of discrimination, then It would seem you are broadening the definition of discrimination to the point that it becomes meaningless. All discrimination is horrible,but some are worse than others. One cannot compare what you one goes through on an open internet forum to being denied employment because of color or belief.

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I'm not here to do your homework for you. Either you provide evidence of direct discrimination or you do not... so far you have not. I see you twisting and turning about nonsense on a forum, but all that is meaningless. I want real world examples here in the USA.
    Debate Politics is based in the USA.

    Its fine, if you don't want to acknowledge it that is of course up to you. But I did provide evidence. If you won't accept it or debate it then that is on you. Not me.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Do you even realize what it is that I linked to? You've been here for 7 years. Do you remember how this forum used to look? Do you remember that the Religion and Philosophy sections used to be combined? Now...do you remember WHY those two were separated and why the religion section has a special rule set? I remember.

    Your post here was a perfect example of reacting before thinking. You've done the same thing through out this entire thread.
    Yup, I remember why, because you had a lot of whiny religious asshats who couldn't handle the fact that others were able to question their blind faith and doubt their idiotic conclusions so DP decided to coddle the immature little children and give them their own section where they could be protected in their own little echo chamber.

    And you act like that's a good thing.
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