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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes, I know that there are laws against discrimination. I also know that those laws are only against certain forms of discrimination. Which is in and of itself, discrimination. Do you not know the definition of discrimination?



    Where did I even suggest that Christian bakeries were being shut down proactively because they just might discriminate? Talk about strawmanning it!

    And yes, there is discrimination going on against Christian individuals because of their Christian values. You can try and deny it. You can try and narrow down the definition of discrimination all that you want. Fact is that there is per the definition of the term "discrimination". You can even read the definFition for yourself in post 94.
    Pointing out severe and systemic hypocrisy of Christians is not discrimination. Claiming the time of Christmas belongs to Christians exclusively and that any INCLUSIVE expression of the holidays is discrimination against or an attack on Christianity is the ultimate in absurd straw men. Attempting to silence dissenting views of Christianity is not discrimination, it means I don't accept your beliefs, yet has zero affect on your personal relationship with your God.

    But worse is taking a group, such as LBGT who Christians have consistently tried to marginalize and force Christian beliefs on others by proxy through state (read: nation) law, a group consistently discriminated against... That somehow, not allowing Christians to violate others freedom of belief and pursuit of happiness is harming Christians is patently sociopathic.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I can cut and paste the quadriatic equation, it doesn't mean that I understand it, just as it's clear you are unable to comprehend the meaning of discrimination. Every post you make on the topic is a demonstration of trolling, ignorance or stupidity. Which is it?
    Probably because the quadratic equation is math which is far more complicated that simple words. I comprehend it just fine. The problem is that you either A: Don't want to comprehend it and so choose not to or B: you understand it but want to narrow it down to apply to your agenda in order to believe that you are not discriminatory yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But there is no right to be so, which is what I originally said and what many Christians want.
    Actually, yes, there is a right to be a douchebag. What's the old saying? "I have a right to say whatever I want, you do not have a right to not be offended"
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, but unless they infringe upon the rights of others, there's nothing you can do about it. No right to not be offended either.
    Sure there is. I can tell them they're being asshats. Freedom of speech and all that. And it's not discrimination to do so either. The lack of right not to be offended goes both ways.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually, yes, there is a right to be a douchebag. What's the old saying? "I have a right to say whatever I want, you do not have a right to not be offended"
    Just like I can tell them they're being douchebags and they don't have the right not to be offended either. I'm not the one screaming discrimination here.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Probably because the quadratic equation is math which is far more complicated that simple words. I comprehend it just fine. The problem is that you either A: Don't want to comprehend it and so choose not to or B: you understand it but want to narrow it down to apply to your agenda in order to believe that you are not discriminatory yourself.
    My choice of the quadriatic equation was specifically chosen, as it appears the meaning of discrimination is your own personal quadriatic equation. If you're not trolling, then you really have no idea how much you're embarrassing yourself.

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by rationality View Post
    Do you think they are?
    Yes. In general religious liberties are real and protected until one enters the public arena or engages in commerce. The news is filled with stories of Christians being dismissed, demoted, and otherwise pressured to not freely practice their religion. see current example below...

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Yes. In general religious liberties are real and protected until one enters the public arena or engages in commerce. The news is filled with stories of Christians being dismissed, demoted, and otherwise pressured to not freely practice their religion. see current example below...

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...96783405,d.b2w
    Under the law, Christians are allowed to practice their religion precisely as much as everyone else is. If anyone is denying Christians rights disproportionately to other faiths/non-faiths, then they are practicing discrimination and breaking the law.

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    Pointing out severe and systemic hypocrisy of Christians is not discrimination. Claiming the time of Christmas belongs to Christians exclusively and that any INCLUSIVE expression of the holidays is discrimination against or an attack on Christianity is the ultimate in absurd straw men. Attempting to silence dissenting views of Christianity is not discrimination, it means I don't accept your beliefs, yet has zero affect on your personal relationship with your God.
    Except that simply pointing out severe and systemic hypocrisy is not the only thing that is happening is it? There are groups out there that are purposely trying to push anything Christian out of public spaces. Do you deny this? There are people out there that purposely go out of their way to offend Christians in order to drown them out. Don't believe me? Scan through this forum. Look to the front page, see that section called "Religious Discussions"? Do you know why that had to be made? Do you know why the special rule set is in effect in that section?

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    But worse is taking a group, such as LBGT who Christians have consistently tried to marginalize and force Christian beliefs on others by proxy through state (read: nation) law, a group consistently discriminated against... That somehow, not allowing Christians to violate others freedom of belief and pursuit of happiness is harming Christians is patently sociopathic.
    Read my sig, its been there since yesterday. I no more want Christians to use government force to deny LGBT rights than I want anyone else to deny the Rights of Christians through government force. And like it or not, people have a right to discriminate. Its called the right to association and the right to freedom of speech. Would you like it if I forced you via the government to be with someone that you don't like? That you don't approve of because they smell like a dump? Or any other number of ways in which people decide who they don't want to be around?

    Oh sure, people use the government to try and prevent certain kinds of discrimination. But by doing so they are ignoring other types of discrimination. All the while claiming that they're not really discriminating. Just look at this thread for that example.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Under the law, Christians are allowed to practice their religion precisely as much as everyone else is. If anyone is denying Christians rights disproportionately to other faiths/non-faiths, then they are practicing discrimination and breaking the law.
    Besides, religious practice is limited and subservient to other rights. Someone who believes in human sacrifice is out of luck no matter how strongly they believe. Christians don't get to violate the law no matter how much their beliefs tell them they should.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    I couldn't find the "No, they are just a load of whiners" answer so I simply had to pick No, which is correct, but incomplete.
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