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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I'd suggest that you stop trying to narrow it down to fit your agenda. Would make your arguments much more believable about wanting to stop negative discrimination.
    As a show of generosity and patience toward you, I'm going to assume your posts are a demonstration of trolling and not willful ignorance and stupidity.

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There are laws against discrimination. Nobody gets to break them for any reason. Get over yourself.
    Yes, I know that there are laws against discrimination. I also know that those laws are only against certain forms of discrimination. Which is in and of itself, discrimination. Do you not know the definition of discrimination?

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    No Christian bakeries are being shut down proactively because they just might discriminate, the only ones that do are the ones that actually are discriminating. Nobody is discriminating against Christians, they are going after bigots. There is no right to get away from being a douchebag without consequence. Rent a clue.
    Where did I even suggest that Christian bakeries were being shut down proactively because they just might discriminate? Talk about strawmanning it!

    And yes, there is discrimination going on against Christian individuals because of their Christian values. You can try and deny it. You can try and narrow down the definition of discrimination all that you want. Fact is that there is per the definition of the term "discrimination". You can even read the definition for yourself in post 94.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There are laws against discrimination. Nobody gets to break them for any reason. Get over yourself.



    No Christian bakeries are being shut down proactively because they just might discriminate, the only ones that do are the ones that actually are discriminating. Nobody is discriminating against Christians, they are going after bigots. There is no right to get away from being a douchebag without consequence. Rent a clue.
    Actually, there should be no law against being a douchebag. The government is not some cosmic force of karma. It's merely here to ensure the rights of everyone are upheld. This arguments revolving around the use of government need to demonstrate rights violation. People can be douchebags and not violate the rights of anyone. And in such case, there should be no government consequences.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    As a show of generosity and patience toward you, I'm going to assume your posts are a demonstration of trolling and not willful ignorance and stupidity.
    Come now, no need for insults. I gave you the definition right in post 94. All that you're doing is trying to pretend that it doesn't exist in order to narrow down what discrimination actually is in order to push your agenda.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Actually, there should be no law against being a douchebag. The government is not some cosmic force of karma. It's merely here to ensure the rights of everyone are upheld. This arguments revolving around the use of government need to demonstrate rights violation. People can be douchebags and not violate the rights of anyone. And in such case, there should be no government consequences.
    I didn't say against being a douchebag, I said they wanted to be douchebags without consequence. They want to act like asshats and not have anyone disagree with them or take them to task for it. When they are called idiots for acting like idiots, they whine and pretend to be discriminated against. No, they brought it on themselves, all they have to do is stop acting like morons. There aren't government consequences for being stupid, only for breaking the law. There are social consequences though.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I didn't say against being a douchebag, I said they wanted to be douchebags without consequence. They want to act like asshats and not have anyone disagree with them or take them to task for it. When they are called idiots for acting like idiots, they whine and pretend to be discriminated against. No, they brought it on themselves, all they have to do is stop acting like morons. There aren't government consequences for being stupid, only for breaking the law. There are social consequences though.
    One can be a douchebag without consequence. I don't think Christians are being discriminated against, but in terms of things such as property and labor, there is government force used against their free exercise of those. But that's another topic.

    However, at base people can be douchebags without consequence. Many do.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Come now, no need for insults. I gave you the definition right in post 94. All that you're doing is trying to pretend that it doesn't exist in order to narrow down what discrimination actually is in order to push your agenda.
    I can cut and paste the quadriatic equation, it doesn't mean that I understand it, just as it's clear you are unable to comprehend the meaning of discrimination. Every post you make on the topic is a demonstration of trolling, ignorance or stupidity. Which is it?

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    One can be a douchebag without consequence. I don't think Christians are being discriminated against, but in terms of things such as property and labor, there is government force used against their free exercise of those. But that's another topic.

    However, at base people can be douchebags without consequence. Many do.
    But there is no right to be so, which is what I originally said and what many Christians want.
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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." --First Amendment to the United States Constitution

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    Re: Do you feel Christians are Discriminated against in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But there is no right to be so, which is what I originally said and what many Christians want.
    No, but unless they infringe upon the rights of others, there's nothing you can do about it. No right to not be offended either.
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