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  • changed

    3 6.12%
  • is exactly the same

    35 71.43%
  • is better thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    4 8.16%
  • is completely worthless thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • has been ruined thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • I'm divorcing because of SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • what ruling? Who's SCOTUS?

    1 2.04%
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Enlighten us.
    It is not a question of the first incidence impact on an individual marriage that would be relevant in anything but a very naive mind. Changing societal structures creates waves of differing lengths of complex consequences. Asking a question like above implies not understanding this trivial but essential fact about social, economic and legal systems.

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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It is not a question of the first incidence impact on an individual marriage that would be relevant in anything but a very naive mind. Changing societal structures creates waves of differing lengths of complex consequences. Asking a question like above implies not understanding this trivial but essential fact about social, economic and legal systems.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Racer View Post
    I doubt we have seen the last of the argument about who is allowed to marry who. At this point I don't really care. The seal is broken and all types will pour in after lengthy battles. So be it.

    I will be defining my marriage as traditional.
    Still too obtuse for my liking, but I can't force you to provide any more detail than you wish to provide.

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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Marriage is the same now as it has always been, as established and defined by a much higher power than any mortal court, legislator, or other part of secular government.

    The Supreme Court once ruled that a tomato is not a fruit. They were as wrong then as they are this time.

    Marriage remains what it always has been, a specific sacred union between a man and a woman. No mortal government has the authority to define it otherwise.
    "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's." The whole point that people like you refuse to see is that the civil marriage, the legal status is NOT the same as any religious marriage. They hold completely and utterly different purposes. When you go before a priest/minister/what-have-you and get married without going through the paperwork, you have been married before God (or deity of choice if you are not of the big three), but not before "Caesar". Likewise, if you go before the Justice of the Peace, and do the proper paperwork, but never go before a member of the clergy, then you are married before "Caesar", but not before God. Similarly, being married before the Goddess is not married before God, unless you ascribe to the idea that all divine beings are actually one in the same.

    Try as you might, no matter how divine the religious institution of marriage is, the civil institution is separate from it. This is especially important in a country where religious freedom is one of the highest priorities. After all, Jesus told us to live by example, not to force our Christian values upon others by law.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Of course my marriage has changed.

    It is now a couple of days more in the rear view mirror than it was previously.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Your answer proves you have nothing.
    If you say so.

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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    My life is worse, as is my marriage. The Rangers traded Talbot and are sticking with Lundqvist. I'll likely be a widow this time next year. Other than that, no change. Almost 30 years and going strong.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Marriage is the same now as it has always been, as established and defined by a much higher power than any mortal court, legislator, or other part of secular government.

    The Supreme Court once ruled that a tomato is not a fruit. They were as wrong then as they are this time.

    Marriage remains what it always has been, a specific sacred union between a man and a woman. No mortal government has the authority to define it otherwise.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    I'm getting older not near 74 but older than I was. lesbian, polygamous. I think the decision was good. I don't think government has any business in my relationships. Won't get married but have relationships which are wondrous. And your opinion would be?
    I think that's wonderful for you and if you're happy, even better. The religious right has just been handed their hat and that's as it should be.

    I've been married for over 20 years, we're still young (50s) and we've been showered with grandchildren.

    It's been 46 years since the Stonewall riot and we're finally at a balance.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Not according to the law of the land.
    “If the law supposes that…the law is a ass - a idiot”—Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist

    With the Nix v. Hedden, 149 U.S. 304 (1893) ruling, the Supreme Court established, as “the law of the land”, that a tomato is not a fruit. Of course, this was a nonsensical ruling. By every accepted biological definition, a tomato is, indeed, a fruit, and the court ruling otherwise would not change this.

    Implementing an unalterable falsehood into law does not make it true; it remains every bit as false as before. All that is thus accomplished is to make a mockery of the rule of law itself.

    Trying to define, by law, the concept of marriage to include anything other than a specific type of union between a man and a woman is exactly the same sort of mockery of law as ruling that a tomato is not a fruit. A tomato remains what it is, and marriage remains what it is, regardless of any absurd attempt to define it otherwise by law.
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