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  • changed

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  • is exactly the same

    35 71.43%
  • is better thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    4 8.16%
  • is completely worthless thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • has been ruined thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • I'm divorcing because of SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • what ruling? Who's SCOTUS?

    1 2.04%
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And you have no proof for this assertion.
    Sure I do.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Single parents can indeed do an exemplary job of rearing children as can gay parents. I know a number of people in both groups. But that does not change the fact that whether they are straight or gay, children generally benefit more from having a traditional loving mother and father in the home.
    I've known 2 parent families who would have been better off being divorced. My best friend as a tween had raging alcoholics for parents, and while my parents had issues, they were Ward and June Cleaver next to her parents. I swear I think the only reason they did not divorce was because they wouldn't have had anyone else to beat up.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    The statistics say otherwise.
    There is a saying for that. Lies, damn lies, and statistics. I took statistics in college and learned early on how easy numbers are to manipulate
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    I've known 2 parent families who would have been better off being divorced. My best friend as a tween had raging alcoholics for parents, and while my parents had issues, they were Ward and June Cleaver next to her parents. I swear I think the only reason they did not divorce was because they wouldn't have had anyone else to beat up.
    You can always find anecdotal arguments for just about anything. My argument is not on a case by case basis but on the big picture overall.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    There is a saying for that. Lies, damn lies, and statistics. I took statistics in college and learned early on how easy numbers are to manipulate
    Yup, but in this case the statistics are not being used to manipulate the perception.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Yup, but in this case the statistics are not being used to manipulate the perception.
    Depends on how people view statistics that is.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    You can always find anecdotal arguments for just about anything. My argument is not on a case by case basis but on the big picture overall.
    That is true, but then some people deny the numbers and go with what they see, so it works both ways.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    But that's sort of the point I'm making. When a society makes traditional marriage unnecessary or unimportant and rejects what it is intended to be and/or the positive attributes it produces or redefines what it is, then more and more people just don't bother to engage in it.
    Actually you missed the point. We focused more on the real marriage and didn't worry about a legal fiction. That what all the anti SSM people can't get through their tiny little minds. That which happens through law has nothing to do with a religious or social marriage. The legal marriage is only about the legal rights and benefits that come with that piece of paper. Limiting who can and cannot not get that piece of paper and the associated benefits has no effect or how people treat the marriage itself, i.e. The relationship. That is one of the reasons I support any two consenting adults, be they same or opposite gender, blood related or not, being able to achieve this status. From a legal perspective it has never been about love or procreation, or family or any of those arguments. Historically it's been more about property and power than family, that latter raising to the fore only recently, historically speaking.

    This is why in a country where religious freedom is paramount (not freedom for only one religion), and is composed of a majority that claim to follow the guy who never once said that his teaching should be imposed upon others by force of law or arms, we allow people to marry whom they will, as per their own religious and/or moral convictions.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Married 29 years this past June 8th. Dated her for 6 and half years before we got married.

    We just survived cancer together, so the SCOTUS is nothing compared to that one.

    I love my wife, and no one can tell me to do otherwise.

    SSM couples love each other also, but... until this ruling, people could tell them that they could not get married.

    My wife and I both are very happy for the LGBT community. We believe that equal rights for all, is what this country stands for. So, in a way, my marriage is stronger given the knowledge that some group, that may decide that they do not like that she and I are married, cannot force us to not be married anymore as has happened to a number of SSM couples.

    Other than that? Nope, no change. She loves me, I love her, and we will be together until one of us dies... and even longer after that in our hearts and in heaven.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    You're too limited in your thinking. A man statistically has a better income, or so it is claimed, so what you want is another husband. Or better yet, do what I did and get one of each.
    But there's more to life than money - and I find women so much more fun ...

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