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  • changed

    3 6.12%
  • is exactly the same

    35 71.43%
  • is better thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    4 8.16%
  • is completely worthless thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • has been ruined thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • I'm divorcing because of SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • what ruling? Who's SCOTUS?

    1 2.04%
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    There are a lot of us out there that are just not bothering with the legal paperwork. My wife and I were married for about 6 to 8 years before we went to get it legally documented. And we only did that for better mortgage rates.
    But that's sort of the point I'm making. When a society makes traditional marriage unnecessary or unimportant and rejects what it is intended to be and/or the positive attributes it produces or redefines what it is, then more and more people just don't bother to engage in it.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    But that's sort of the point I'm making. When a society makes marriage unnecessary or unimportant and rejects what it is intended to be and/or the positive attributes it produces, then more and more people just don't bother to engage in it.
    Society hasn't made marriage unnecessary or unimportant for most people though. The vast majority of people in this country either a) are married, b) have been married, or c) plan to eventually get married. There is a small group of people who don't want to get married ever. They don't represent the majority in any way shape or form.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Government should stay out of marriage period.

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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Society hasn't made marriage unnecessary or unimportant for most people though. The vast majority of people in this country either a) are married, b) have been married, or c) plan to eventually get married. There is a small group of people who don't want to get married ever. They don't represent the majority in any way shape or form.
    Our history strongly suggests that marriage is increasingly becoming a non necessity or unattractive for more and more people all the time. And given how much the traditional two parent family has been dismissed as important over recent decades, the correlation between that and the decline in traditional marriage looks really strong.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by JFish123 View Post
    Government should stay out of marriage period.
    So you'll give up all the benefits that come with that marriage license? Somehow I doubt it
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Our history strongly suggests that marriage is increasingly becoming a non necessity or unattractive for more and more people all the time. And given how much the traditional two parent family has been dismissed as important over recent decades, the correlation between that and the decline in traditional marriage looks really strong.
    Single parent families can work. A good friend of mine is a single mom, her oldest daughter just graduated Early College, got her high school diploma and 2 associate degrees, plans to finish her 4 year degree in biochemical engineering. Her youngest daughter will be a sophomore in high school this fall, and they moved last year to get her into the best high school in the county, well the attendance zone for it, but you get idea. Also I don't think people aren't getting married just because everyone can have their piece of the pie. A good friend of mine is getting married in about 4 1/2 weeks to a guy who obviously is as loyal as a puppy dog, having stood by her through everything she's been through the last several years. Yeah my cousin and her now husband of almost 15 months lived together before they were eventually married but so what?
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Single parent families can work. A good friend of mine is a single mom, her oldest daughter just graduated Early College, got her high school diploma and 2 associate degrees, plans to finish her 4 year degree in biochemical engineering. Her youngest daughter will be a sophomore in high school this fall, and they moved last year to get her into the best high school in the county, well the attendance zone for it, but you get idea. Also I don't think people aren't getting married just because everyone can have their piece of the pie. A good friend of mine is getting married in about 4 1/2 weeks to a guy who obviously is as loyal as a puppy dog, having stood by her through everything she's been through the last several years. Yeah my cousin and her now husband of almost 15 months lived together before they were eventually married but so what?
    Single parents can indeed do an exemplary job of rearing children as can gay parents. I know a number of people in both groups. But that does not change the fact that whether they are straight or gay, children generally benefit more from having a traditional loving mother and father in the home.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Our history strongly suggests that marriage is increasingly becoming a non necessity or unattractive for more and more people all the time. And given how much the traditional two parent family has been dismissed as important over recent decades, the correlation between that and the decline in traditional marriage looks really strong.
    The issue you fail to recognize is that although some people don't think marriage is necessary, this isn't a prevailing opinion. Many are simply putting off marriage or view the legal benefits of marriage unnecessary for them.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Single parents can indeed do an exemplary job of rearing children as can gay parents. I know a number of people in both groups. But that does not change the fact that whether they are straight or gay, children generally benefit more from having a traditional loving mother and father in the home.
    And you have no proof for this assertion.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The issue you fail to recognize is that although some people don't think marriage is necessary, this isn't a prevailing opinion. Many are simply putting off marriage or view the legal benefits of marriage unnecessary for them.
    The statistics say otherwise.
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