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  • changed

    3 6.12%
  • is exactly the same

    35 71.43%
  • is better thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    4 8.16%
  • is completely worthless thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • has been ruined thanks to SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • I'm divorcing because of SCOTUS ruling

    2 4.08%
  • what ruling? Who's SCOTUS?

    1 2.04%
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You always forget this line, Bob: "In my opinion, based on my purely individual and subjective beliefs, beliefs that mean absolutely nothing, generally". YOU believe that marriage is defined by God. Guess what? You're wrong. And we now have evidence to prove it. Your lack of acceptance of this is irrelevant.
    I sure enjoy reading your posts, Cap. lol


    Do you think this might be a good time to ask Bob to prove that God exists before accepting that he?...or she?....or he-she?....defined marriage and not humans by trial and error? Or would the circular reasoning be too much to endure?

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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    I voted 'changed', but I needed an entry for 'remains to be seen'.

    Why?

    Because I'm now motivated to push for POLYGAMY to be the next big thing.

    I've been looking hard at my finances, and have been noting the spare bedroom vacated by my twenty-something daughter who recently moved on her own.

    - I think I can fit and afford another women in here!

    Yep.

    So, if we can get this polygamy thing going, and I can find a decent women that maybe my wife likes, I could be sitting pretty.

    Guys, if you can't see the advantages of this, you need to hand-in your man card.

    Everyone else is changing the definition of marriage - we can do this!
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I sure enjoy reading your posts, Cap. lol


    Do you think this might be a good time to ask Bob to prove that God exists before accepting that he?...or she?....or he-she?....defined marriage and not humans by trial and error? Or would the circular reasoning be too much to endure?
    Thing is, Moot, I believe in God and am quite religious. But MY God isn't the rigid, hateful, ignorant god that some folks believe in. My God is loving, flexible, understanding, and wise.
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Thing is, Moot, I believe in God and am quite religious. But MY God isn't the rigid, hateful, ignorant god that some folks believe in. My God is loving, flexible, understanding, and wise.
    Sorry Cap, I didn't mean to assume. I agree, God can be whatever one wants it to be....to a point. Personally, I don't know if there is a God or not so I leave the option open...just in case there is one. But if there is a God, I do not believe that he speaks to anyone outside their own head. Which kinda rules the bible out.

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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Sorry Cap, I didn't mean to assume. I agree, God can be whatever one wants it to be....to a point. Personally, I don't know if there is a God or not so I leave the option open...just in case there is one. But if there is a God, I do not believe that he speaks to anyone outside their own head. Which kinda rules the bible out.
    Didn't think you assumed that I didn't believe in God, Moot. Figured you didn't know. It tends to amaze people that with some of my positions, I am also one of the most religious people on this board. My view of God and religious is just inclusive, rather than excluding.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Didn't think you assumed that I didn't believe in God, Moot. Figured you didn't know. It tends to amaze people that with some of my positions, I am also one of the most religious people on this board. My view of God and religious is just inclusive, rather than excluding.
    Your God is much better. Which makes you the perfect foil for Bob, so I'll leave you to it.

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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    2013
    Racial or ethnic group
    Percent of births considered "non-marital"

    Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders -17 percent
    Non-Hispanic whites - 29 percent
    Hispanics - 53 percent
    American Indian and Native Alaskans - 66 percent
    Non-Hispanic blacks - 73 percent
    TOTAL - roughly 40 percent in 2013 - up from 31 percent in 2005
    CNN's Don Lemon says more than 72 percent of African-American births are out of wedlock | PolitiFact

    Since 1970, out-of-wedlock birth rates have soared. In 1965, 24 percent of black infants and 3.1 percent of white infants were born to single mothers. By 1990 the rates had risen to 64 percent for black infants, 18 percent for whites.
    An Analysis of Out-Of-Wedlock Births in the United States | Brookings Institution

    Rates in 1950 were under 10%
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db18.pdf
    That doesn't prove anything about marriage being about the children. Those people being in non-marital, longterm, stable relationships would work for those children almost, if not as well for children, especially if the parents cared to take the extra time to actually care for and about the children (both parents or at least two people). While marriage does benefit children, it has little to do with the actual marriage itself and a lot to do with other factors.

    Children with married parents are better off

    Today, better-educated, higher-income adults are much more likely to marry. That means their children benefit from the marriage, and the income, and the education of their parents. Howard and Reeves also point out that the same skills that make marriages work (like commitment and patience) also come handy for good parenting. And so perhaps it's not that children are better off when their parents marry it's that the qualities that enable successful marriages also make good parents.

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    At the end of the day, marriage itself might still have some effect on the adult outcomes of children. But it would be a small one.
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    1 Man & 1 Woman ... CHECK exactly the same and the way it IS supposed to be !!!
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Yes or no, and why if yes. Please.
    I voted "No."

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    How long have you been married?
    A lot.

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    Did the SSM ruling by SCOTUS somehow change your marriage?
    It did not, and it cannot, but probably to non-DP-Mainstream reasons
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    Re: Has your marriage changed since SCOTUS ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    That doesn't prove anything about marriage being about the children. Those people being in non-marital, longterm, stable relationships would work for those children almost, if not as well for children, especially if the parents cared to take the extra time to actually care for and about the children (both parents or at least two people). While marriage does benefit children, it has little to do with the actual marriage itself and a lot to do with other factors.

    Children with married parents are better off
    I have made my case for traditional marriage and the WP can try to argue that marriage isn't the reason that kids in two parent homes are better off, but that is rather absurd on the face of it. Being married is WHY the kids are most likely to have two parents--a mom and dad--in the home. Without the commitment, there is a far more likelihood both won't be in the home.

    And you further said that marriage is at an all time high. Well sorry, but the stats don't back you up on that either:
    Marriage Rate Declines To Historic Low, Study Finds

    The point being made that the less emphasis is put on the traditional marriage--the less it is held up as the cultural norm and benefit it has always been--the less likely people are to get married. And the more kids there will be who don't have the stability and benefits and positive role models of the traditional two-parent home. And I will continue to believe that is bad for kids whether those kids are straight or gay.
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