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Thread: the right to marry whoever

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    Re: the right to marry whoever

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Relationships are not necessarily limited to two individuals, nor are they limited to romantic interest. You have a working relationship with all your coworkers, do you not? Sure you could view it as a group of individual relationship, but it is also legitimate to view it as a group relationship. Such also works for romantic relationships.
    I already admitted that.

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    Re: the right to marry whoever

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is zero evidence to suggest that a vagina, penis, testiles, ovaries or the uterus would exist without procreation.
    There is zero evidence to suggest that these body parts would NOT exist without procreation.

    It is frankly absurd to suggest gays are doing anything worthwhile or intended.
    Since "worthwhile" is a subjective term it is frankly absurd to suggest that there is any absolute measure as to whether or not gays are doing anything worthwhile.
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    Re: the right to marry whoever

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I already admitted that.
    Either I missed it or it did not come across clearly.
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    Re: the right to marry whoever

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Limiting yourself to one person is kind of one of the whole points to the relationship configuration. It might not be a natural course of action, but it establishes stability and helps avoid potential problems that come about from more open approaches.
    It seems like it has not eliminated many of the problems as almost half the 1 on 1 marriages end in divorce courts. I see no stability in this at all. A person does just as well with a coin flip. The idea of the relationship at first was arbitrary. It then locked in. It did not stop a person from sleeping with the maid at the wife's request.
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    Re: the right to marry whoever

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    There is zero evidence to suggest that these body parts would NOT exist without procreation.
    Why would the vagina, ovaries or uterus exist without procreation. Come on, give me a theory. For men, why would they have a penis and ejaculate if not for procreation? You won't find an answer because the evidence suggests they exist for that function.

    Since "worthwhile" is a subjective term it is frankly absurd to suggest that there is any absolute measure as to whether or not gays are doing anything worthwhile.
    Maybe in some contexts, but not in the one I used it in. What are gays doing that is beyond enjoying themselves? The entire reason those pleasures exist is to motivate them to have sex, but there is nothing that leads me to believe it's supposed to come from someone of the same sex. Though I suppose people can do what they want, but still, my point stands.

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    Re: the right to marry whoever

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    I'm going to have to go with Herin on this one. It's straight cheating if they are doing behind another's back. Now I will agree with you that simply being married to one person and having a relationship with another is not automatically cheating and that there has been much "brainwashing" to tell us otherwise. But it is a breach of trust if you are not making your partner(s) aware of those you see outside of them.
    If you read the response to Herin I did say in the rules we have he is correct and yes it is cheating. I don't quote a source here but the percentage of marriages experiencing "cheating" runs between a low of around 20% according to some studies and as high as 60% according to other studies. Whatever number you pick there is a lot of bed switching. You can call it cheating and breaking faith with this one person and I will agree to that. The idea though of owning ones sexuality by two words "I do" is really silly. To enter marriage with this idea is the real leap of faith.
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    Re: the right to marry whoever

    Quote Originally Posted by Rentoc View Post
    We used to always consider marriage the union of 1 man and 1 woman. Now it's 1 whatever and 1 whatever. Why can't it now be 1 or more whatever and 1 or more whatever. If it is peoples right to "marry" whomever they wish, why can't the whomever be multiple?
    no, you used to discriminate when it came to marriage. For years black and white marriages were banned/illegal, until the supreme court ended that injustice. Now the injustice of only straight people being allowed to marry has ended.

    And it is not 1 whatever, it is 2 people/2 persons/2 loved ones.

    The principle of marriage was not altered by the supreme court, it is still the union of 2 people who want to profess their love and their eternal desire to stay together in a committed relationship together. Polygamy is changing the nature and principle of marriage totally.
    toward that end the tactics and the strategies that people resort to in carrying out this ideologically driven agenda of what they call “pro-life” which is really pro-fetus does not have anything to do with the lives of babies after they’re born or the women who bear them.

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    Re: the right to marry whoever

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Do consenting adults have a Constitutional right to marry any other consenting adult? Which of these are Constitutional rights?
    None of them are, because they aren't listed in the constitution.
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    Re: the right to marry whoever

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Polygamy is changing the nature and principle of marriage totally.
    How is polygamy, which is as old as monogamous marriage itself, or nearly if you go with the Adam and Eve history, changing the nature and principle of marriage? It was a common enough practice at least through the New Testament period, as noted in Romans, and more than likely well into the 13th century, when the Catholic Church decreed under Pope Innocent that marriages was their domain, and no one could marry save through them.
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    Re: the right to marry whoever

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    When I've had sex with my boyfriends the pieces always seem to fit just fine, thanks! And, we were very, very intimate.
    Boys don't have holes meant for that. You managed to fit the square block through the triangle hole. Congrats.
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