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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is intimidation. We had a couple of women complaining that women were not properly represented in leadership positions and two got jobs 1 of which was mine (when it came up for applications again). I said that it was sexism and was soundly yelled at by people and who were soundly defeated in the debate by me. Those women got their job because of their gender. That is sexism. I am very unpopular with some of the staff because of that and that is reverse political correctness. It is OK to be sexist if it promotes an agenda.
    You need to watch a show that will properly teach you that all human institutions are run by politics. Maybe that show is Madmen, or maybe it's House of Cards. Either way, you'll know you chose the right one when by the end of the first season you are properly jaded. That, or turn forty.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Real or not... some think it isn't and they are generally the ones guilty of being Politically Correct.

    Thoughts....
    They know what they are doing is monstrous so they don't like to admit it exists. Here's how the dirty rotten scoundrels think...

    Saul Alinsky’s 12 Rules for Radicals

    Here is the complete list from Alinsky.

    * RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)
    * RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)
    * RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
    * RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
    * RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
    * RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)
    * RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)
    * RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
    * RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)
    * RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)
    * RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)
    * RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is intimidation. We had a couple of women complaining that women were not properly represented in leadership positions and two got jobs 1 of which was mine (when it came up for applications again). I said that it was sexism and was soundly yelled at by people and who were soundly defeated in the debate by me. Those women got their job because of their gender. That is sexism. I am very unpopular with some of the staff because of that and that is reverse political correctness. It is OK to be sexist if it promotes an agenda.
    Let's assume for a moment that this is not just a matter of how you are perceiving things. Sometimes we make sacrifices because it serves a greater purpose.
    "Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers" - Voltaire
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    PC is just a transitional phase until we get to Newspeak.
    Correct.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Real or not... some think it isn't and they are generally the ones guilty of being Politically Correct.

    Thoughts....

    Wow the right is great at redefining something fundamentally sound as negative. It sucks
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You need to watch a show that will properly teach you that all human institutions are run by politics. Maybe that show is Madmen, or maybe it's House of Cards. Either way, you'll know you chose the right one when by the end of the first season you are properly jaded. That, or turn forty.
    I have no idea what this means///
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    They know what they are doing is monstrous so they don't like to admit it exists. Here's how the dirty rotten scoundrels think...

    Saul Alinsky’s 12 Rules for Radicals

    Here is the complete list from Alinsky.
    Here we go...

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Let's assume for a moment that this is not just a matter of how you are perceiving things. .
    How I am perceiving this situation? How am I "perceiving things" in my scenario then?

    Sometimes we make sacrifices because it serves a greater purpose
    So you support sexism. Got it. That is all I need to know. No need to respond to me again...
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I have no idea what this means///
    Just more newspeak gibberish.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    How I am perceiving this situation? How am I "perceiving things" in my scenario then?



    So you support sexism. Got it. That is all I need to know. No need to respond to me again...
    You might be behaving a tad hyper-sensitive here
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