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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Your comprehension is usually better than this. I never said, nor did I imply, there was never backlash.

    You said, however, that you choose to recognize only illegal backlash, which confirms that you know other kinds do indeed exist.

    My comment was to acknowledge that you choose to not acknowledge the other kinds.
    By saying what I acknowledge, I'm referring to the type of backlash that can be reasonably addressed (the criminal kind). It's pointless to complain about non-criminal social backlash for speaking outside of social mores. That is never going away. Ever.

    Let's use the gay pizza incident which conveniently presented both examples:

    The pizza owner said he'd refuse to cater gay weddings (because apparently pizza is a huge thing at weddings, but whatever). There were two distinct reactions relevant to this thread:

    1)Social backlash calling the business owner a bigot.
    2)That one woman who threatened to burn down the business.

    One of those reactions will reasonably have to be predicted as the business owner was publicly airing a policy that existed outside of social mores. The other reaction was criminal and therefore need not be tolerated.

    Ultimately, the term "political correctness" is nothing more than a repackaging of modern etiquette by people who still want to live by their own obsolete social mores.
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Here is a little synopsis of political correctness, its purposes, the main characters, mostly Marxists associated with the "Frankfurt School," responsible for popularizing it, and some of the means they have used to do that. I am no great admirer of this journal or the author, but I think anyone who wants to research the claims in this article will find they are accurate.

    The Roots of Political Correctness | The American Conservative

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    By saying what I acknowledge, I'm referring to the type of backlash that can be reasonably addressed (the criminal kind). It's pointless to complain about non-criminal social backlash for speaking outside of social mores. That is never going away. Ever.

    Let's use the gay pizza incident which conveniently presented both examples:

    The pizza owner said he'd refuse to cater gay weddings (because apparently pizza is a huge thing at weddings, but whatever). There were two distinct reactions relevant to this thread:

    1)Social backlash calling the business owner a bigot.
    2)That one woman who threatened to burn down the business.

    One of those reactions will reasonably have to be predicted as the business owner was publicly airing a policy that existed outside of social mores. The other reaction was criminal and therefore need not be tolerated.

    Ultimately, the term "political correctness" is nothing more than a repackaging of modern etiquette by people who still want to live by their own obsolete social mores.
    Oh, that's right, you're on the pc = etiquette bandwagon. I forgot. I debunked that pages ago in this thread.
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Here is a little synopsis of political correctness, its purposes, the main characters, mostly Marxists associated with the "Frankfurt School," responsible for popularizing it, and some of the means they have used to do that. I am no great admirer of this journal or the author, but I think anyone who wants to research the claims in this article will find they are accurate.

    The Roots of Political Correctness | The American Conservative
    How could it have originated with Marxism? Before Marxism, say a person just announced to a room full of people that they like to rape and beat their neighbor's children. Is your contention everybody would have just acted like that was an acceptable thing to say? If not, then "political correctness" predated Marxism, right?

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Oh, that's right, you're on the pc = etiquette bandwagon. I forgot. I debunked that pages ago in this thread.
    You should have led with that. I never would have attempted to claim pc = etiquette if you had told me you already debunked it.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    It's real, but it comes from both ends of the political spectrum. I remember when you couldn't be for the troops but against the war in Iraq.


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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Yes and it's a disease.
    And the Internet and bravery are the cure.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    How could it have originated with Marxism? Before Marxism, say a person just announced to a room full of people that they like to rape and beat their neighbor's children. Is your contention everybody would have just acted like that was an acceptable thing to say? If not, then "political correctness" predated Marxism, right?
    None of that is evidence that the doctrine of political correctness was not developed and popularized by communists. If you want to argue that something in that article is inaccurate, refute it with specific facts.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Here is a little synopsis of political correctness, its purposes, the main characters, mostly Marxists associated with the "Frankfurt School," responsible for popularizing it, and some of the means they have used to do that. I am no great admirer of this journal or the author, but I think anyone who wants to research the claims in this article will find they are accurate.

    The Roots of Political Correctness | The American Conservative
    Interesting theory, and I can agree that this is one impetus...but I don't think it's the only one.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    None of that is evidence that the doctrine of political correctness was not developed and popularized by communists. If you want to argue that something in that article is inaccurate, refute it with specific facts.
    Not sure I'm following. How do you think people would have reacted to the scenario I laid out? How, in your view, would that differ from "political correctness?"

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