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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Those are not Political Correctness except for the unborn child... They are narrow minded, bigoted, ignorant, agenda driven, etc. They are not an attack on free speech, other than the unborn one. THAT is Political Correctness.
    Sure they are. Where was the Dixie Chicks right to free speech? Where's the right to free speech for Palestinians to call themselves Palestinians? PC is about controlling how people speak and think and all of those examples I gave were examples of exactly that.
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I think I made that abundantly clear, don't you?
    Fair enough.
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    Sure, you just did. You described racism and anti-gay bigotry as evil. That's what all "political correctness" is- telling people that something they're doing or saying is evil.

    But I do not try to prevent their expression of their views.
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Sure they are. Where was the Dixie Chicks right to free speech? Where's the right to free speech for Palestinians to call themselves Palestinians? PC is about controlling how people speak and think and all of those examples I gave were examples of exactly that.
    I am not sure I agree with that although I have to go... have a good weekend.
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    But I do not try to prevent their expression of their views.
    That's the only way "political correctness" seeks to prevent people from expressing their views- by painting the speaker as being evil.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    That's the only way "political correctness" seeks to prevent people from expressing their views- by painting the speaker as being evil.
    Nonsense. PC shouts down and delegitimizes.
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Nonsense. PC shouts down and delegitimizes.
    What does "shouting down" mean? Isn't that just multiple people calling it evil?

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    What does "shouting down" mean? Isn't that just multiple people calling it evil?

    It is preventing speech.
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It is preventing speech.
    It doesn't prevent anything... what it is, is the socially acceptable language of any given period.

    Political Correctness has always been with us in one way or another.

    in 1960 - Absolutely unacceptable to be gay.

    in 2015 - Not so cool to go and call someone a faggot

    In 1950 - highly ill advised to admit one was a communist

    in 2015 - Who. ****ing. Cares.

    Political Correctness is just people being pissed off it isn't as mainstream to say certain things anymore but you can absolutely say them... it just means more people may not want to associate with you after you say them in every circumstance above I just listed.

    Pretty darn simple stuff.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It is preventing speech.
    I mean if your objection is only to actually preventing people from speaking, sure, I suppose that is rude. That isn't a very close match to what "political correctness" seems to refer to though. For example, if somebody says that something somebody else said was racist, no matter how politely and quietly and whatnot they say it, the person who said the thing will almost invariably accuse them of trying to shut them down with political correctness. It's the strength of the accusation- calling something evil- that the people objecting to "political correctness" feel is shutting them down, not actual yelling over or something. I mean, on a forum how would it even be possible to shout somebody down to the point where they couldn't post their thoughts? Yet people are accused of political correctness constantly on forums.

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