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Political Correctness

Is Political Correctness Real

  • Yes

    Votes: 82 82.8%

  • No

    Votes: 8 8.1%

  • Other

    Votes: 9 9.1%
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I do, however think the term Native-American is just fine and really needed.

Indians was used as a mistake when Columbus thought he reached India.

I have no problem with Native-American at all.

PC terms were all 100% born out of the "don't offend anyone" crowd, and has been taken to ridiculous political extremes and completely ignore reality.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
It has it's advantages, when you play them against themselves.

When I taught college, I had a student who was Egyptian.

I explained to her to put AFRICAN-American on 100% of her paperwork whenever asked.
I told the one student I had from South Africa the same thing.

On the last map I checked, Egypt and South Africa were in AFRICA, so therefore they were African-American.

The student from South Africa even spoke a little ZULU.

I wonder how many American blacks can do that.

BTW...The black people in Africa as a general rule, think it very ARROGANT for American blacks to call themselves African-American.

Most are as African as I am a Frenchman. Meaning ZERO %.
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For whatever demographic purposes, as I'm sure you know, "African-American" refers to sub-Saharan non-whites. It's genetic lineage that determines "race," as it is used. It can be confusing for many, though. What we know now as "Hispanic" didn't exist before the Spanish started breeding with the South and Central American natives. Haitians live in Latin America but are largely descended from African blacks and Creoles.

Let's just all **** until we're all the same color.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Two people had different opinions. News at nine.
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I guess you missed the point of his post.

I will explain.

He was demonstrating the ambiguities in the CORRECT part of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

What is CORRECT if there is no CORRECT answer?

Hence the fundamental problem with POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

No one has written a rule book yet on what is the CORRECT PC terms.

I do not like the term "Asian" being applied to 100% of the Orientals.

Geographically, ASIAN applies to all those living in ASIA. That includes Turkistan.

ASIA is one heck of a big place, so why just say only those in the Orient are Asian.

ASIA minor is also in ASIA.

I can't believe you are making a snarky post about his post. He was only explaining the confusion of PC terms.

(OK, now I will brace myself for a few insults headed my way for daring to explain the obvious)
 
Kobie said:
For whatever demographic purposes, as I'm sure you know, "African-American" refers to sub-Saharan non-whites. It's genetic lineage that determines "race," as it is used. It can be confusing for many, though. What we know now as "Hispanic" didn't exist before the Spanish started breeding with the South and Central American natives. Haitians live in Latin America but are largely descended from African blacks and Creoles.

Let's just all **** until we're all the same color.
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I did my part of that in the 27 countries I visited.

I can say, "How old is your daughter?" in 43 different languages".
 
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Paschendale said:
Commonly held definitions like the inferiority of some races, that gays molest children, and the stupidity of women. PC is opposing lies.



Pride is a reaction to being pushed down. No one needs straight pride, because no one has ever been told that being straight is something to be ashamed of. Someone proclaiming that they have straight pride is only demonstrating that they have absolutely no idea about what gays suffer and by acting as if it applies to them as well, diminishes that fight.
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I disagree. Us "breeders" are told to be ashamed of our personal choice all the time.
 
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Kobie said:
For whatever demographic purposes, as I'm sure you know, "African-American" refers to sub-Saharan non-whites. It's genetic lineage that determines "race," as it is used. It can be confusing for many, though. What we know now as "Hispanic" didn't exist before the Spanish started breeding with the South and Central American natives. Haitians live in Latin America but are largely descended from African blacks and Creoles.

Let's just all **** until we're all the same color.
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Then why did they include the entire continent of Africa in the name.?
(yeah, I already know the answer)
The slaves that were brought over were generally called "African" slaves.

but, hey, it worked to those two kids' advantage, so what the heck.

I guess no one wanted to enter into a class action suit against a bunch of Egyptian and South African students and say they are not "African" because they are not BLACK. The height of racist ignorance and foolishness.

Kinda like another poster brought up earlier. There are really no clear cut definitions and certainly no dictionary of PC terms explained.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
I disagree. Us "breeders" are told to be ashamed of your personal choice all the time.
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By WHO? A relative handful of "militant" homosexuals who wouldn't exist without "breeders"? Where do all these anti-heteros live?
 
Kobie said:
By WHO? A relative handful of "militant" homosexuals who wouldn't exist without "breeders"? Where do all these anti-heteros live?
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Yes, a relatively small handful of militants I met in Ft Lauderdale.

My having several gay friends in Florida was quite an eye opening experience.

Almost all of the gay people I met were very nice people and treated others as they would like to be treated.

However, there were two extreme minorities of note.

1) The gay men's "leather" community. A lady friend of mine went to one of their clubs briefly with her gay friend because he needed to give his roommate a message. She said the looks she got just for being a real female were pretty scarry. Why is SHE! here? Why did you bring HER! into here anyway?

2) the other was with the lesbian "butch" crowd. There was a group that came into a bar I regularly frequented (Grady's off St Andrews Blvd) and sat in a row at the bar on the extreme right end of the bar. There were about 5 ot 6 of them at a time. They were quite heavy, wore flannel shirts with the top button buttoned up, and usually jeans. Most of the time they just stared at the other women in the bar and made a few of them uncomfortable with their stares. However, they never bothered anyone of the women, and paid with cash, so what the heck.

Then one night I decided to have a polite conversation with one of them. During the course of the conversation the subject came around to guns. The big lesbian lady said she owned a .357 magnum and hit dead center every time she shot it.

I said, OK, that is real nice. What .357 do you have?
I told you, it is a .357!
yeah, fine, but what kind?
it is a .357! What is wrong with you!
My apologies, I guess I meant to ask you what make and model is it?
It is a .357 MAGNUM! That is the model you dumbass!!!
hmmm....You just told me all I needed to know. Anytime you would like to go shooting at the range, just let me know. I have never seen anyone shoot dead center with a .357 ALL the time, every time.

As I moved my drink down, all of the other ones wearing the same "uniform" chimed in, in support of her.

OK, must be nice to never practice and never miss.

Only in Rhode Island was I actually attacked by a lesbian for her giving me her number rather than the lesbian.

I am also eternally grateful to the two gay guys out walking their little doggie that told me where to go to actually see and touch a manatee in Melbourne, FL.

and the other gay couple on my street that had so many huge avocados from their tree, they took the extras and put them in a bucket out by the driveway for anyone to have. The ones in FL are huge and called alligator pears. About 3x the size of a regular one. It was very nice of them to do that. I helped them move when one of them got transferred. Nice people.
 
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Kobie said:
For whatever demographic purposes, as I'm sure you know, "African-American" refers to sub-Saharan non-whites. It's genetic lineage that determines "race," as it is used. It can be confusing for many, though. What we know now as "Hispanic" didn't exist before the Spanish started breeding with the South and Central American natives. Haitians live in Latin America but are largely descended from African blacks and Creoles.

Let's just all **** until we're all the same color.
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Which is precisely why it is absurdly inaccurate, and should fall into disuse.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
It has it's advantages, when you play them against themselves.

When I taught college, I had a student who was Egyptian.

I explained to her to put AFRICAN-American on 100% of her paperwork whenever asked.
I told the one student I had from South Africa the same thing.

On the last map I checked, Egypt and South Africa were in AFRICA, so therefore they were African-American.

The student from South Africa even spoke a little ZULU.

I wonder how many American blacks can do that.

BTW...The black people in Africa as a general rule, think it very ARROGANT for American blacks to call themselves African-American.

Most are as African as I am a Frenchman. Meaning ZERO %.
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Is the 5th generation south African white farmer considered "African". If said farmer were to emigrate to the US, would he be legitimately "African-American"? How many generations does a family have to live somewhere before they are sincerely considered of that location?

I have seen more than one British and/or French black actors/singers referred to as "African-American" by Americans, often black Americans, and they should know better better than anybody else.

These are yet more examples of why the term "African-American" is deceptively absurd.

I did not know that many Africans consider the term "African-American" to be arrogant, but it makes sense. It comes off as Americans claiming something that, other than skin color and family history, they really have no life experience of whatsoever.
 
Jetboogieman said:
It doesn't prevent anything... what it is, is the socially acceptable language of any given period.

Political Correctness has always been with us in one way or another.

in 1960 - Absolutely unacceptable to be gay.

in 2015 - Not so cool to go and call someone a faggot

In 1950 - highly ill advised to admit one was a communist

in 2015 - Who. ****ing. Cares.

Political Correctness is just people being pissed off it isn't as mainstream to say certain things anymore but you can absolutely say them... it just means more people may not want to associate with you after you say them in every circumstance above I just listed.

Pretty darn simple stuff.
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If blacks should be called African-American, then why shouldn't whites be called European-Americans?
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
I disagree. Us "breeders" are told to be ashamed of our personal choice all the time.
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It does seem that the most consistently 'contemptible' American these days is a prosperous white, straight, Christian male. In our politically correct world, such people are expected to take a back seat to everybody else or they are fair game to be called arrogant racist extremists whose only legitimate claim to fame is via white privilege. Such cultural branding is a serious irritant to me.

I long for a world described by Martin Luther King as a culture in which ALL people are judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. But the true racists among us these day demand that skin color never be ignored and must be considered in all matters. Color blindness is not an option.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Real or not... some think it isn't and they are generally the ones guilty of being Politically Correct. :lol:

Thoughts....
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The people complaining the loudest about PCisms are also in the market of propaganda and semantics, so I am going to say it's fake.
 
Bodhisattva said:
retarded. Mentally challenged. Mentally handicapped. Handicapped. Hand-able. Black. African American. American. Etc. It is all bull****.

When others tell you that you are saying things wrong or that saying black instead of African America makes you racist, or a bigot or sexist for other things, things are out of control.

It is a classic Left Wing tactic. Attack the other side. Put them on the defensive and talk about them being a bigot instead of the actual issue. Pathetic.
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I tend to agree with Teddy Roosevelt. We are certainly on the path he referred to.

“There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americans…The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of it continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities.”
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Teddy Roosevelt On Hyphenated Americans
 
Bodhisattva said:
Real or not... some think it isn't and they are generally the ones guilty of being Politically Correct. :lol:

Thoughts....
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Political correctness for the right, is anyone or anything that doesn't agree with them.
 
These comments always have existed , it took the right and its cup half empty lives to give it a derogatory name.
 
SheWolf said:
The people complaining the loudest about PCisms are also in the market of propaganda and semantics, so I am going to say it's fake.
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There aren't loud complaints about PCisms. There are loud complaints directed at those who demand that we all use them. For example, if you want to say undocumented immigrants instead of illegal immigrants, that is anybody's choice. But don't presume to denigrate those who know such people are breaking the law and are therefore illegal and who choose to say it like it is.

Even worse are those who organize to punish, even destroy the reputation, livelihood, and/or opportunities of those who exercise a politically incorrect point of view such as support for traditional marriage or a pro life belief that the life in the womb is a human being or a person should not have to participate in an activity he/she believes to be wrong.

PC demands tolerance as defined by the PC police. There is no tolerance for anybody else's point of view.
 
AlbqOwl said:
There aren't loud complaints about PCisms. There are loud complaints directed at those who demand that we all use them. For example, if you want to say undocumented immigrants instead of illegal immigrants, that is anybody's choice. But don't presume to denigrate those who know such people are breaking the law and are therefore illegal and who choose to say it like it is.

Even worse are those who organize to punish, even destroy the reputation, livelihood, and/or opportunities of those who exercise a politically incorrect point of view such as support for traditional marriage or a pro life belief that the life in the womb is a human being or a person should not have to participate in an activity he/she believes to be wrong.

PC demands tolerance as defined by the PC police. There is no tolerance for anybody else's point of view.
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Even worse are those who organize to punish, even destroy the reputation, livelihood, and/or opportunities of those who exercise a politically incorrect point of view, such as support for taking care of the needy or saying this country is plagued with cops killing black people or That there is no big government just Government or That the earth is not only 6000 years old or belief that its up to the women to choose what she will do with her body , not the regressive party.
PC demands tolerance as defined by the PC police. There is no tolerance for anybody else's point of view
 
jbander said:
Even worse are those who organize to punish, even destroy the reputation, livelihood, and/or opportunities of those who exercise a politically incorrect point of view, such as support for taking care of the needy or saying this country is plagued with cops killing black people or That there is no big government just Government or That the earth is not only 6000 years old or belief that its up to the women to choose what she will do with her body , not the regressive party.
PC demands tolerance as defined by the PC police. There is no tolerance for anybody else's point of view
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And pray tell who is organizing to punish, even destroy the reputation, livelihood, and/or opportunities of those who express a politically correct point of view?

The Westboro Baptists? They don't give a flying fig what anybody believes. They are in it for the money, trying to trigger lawsuits so that they can profit. Much as the ACLU does only in a different way. Utterly contemptible and self serving, but not what I was talking about.

The hate filled tweets or Facebook posts? Idiots on both sides of the aisle are equally guilty there, but they aren't organizing to physically and materially punish people.

Regardless of where it comes from though, tolerance is not tolerance unless both sides of an argument are allowed their point of view.
 
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