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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It says otherwise in your referrence: " used to criticize "
    The person wearing that shirt may be criticizing orphans are overly sensitive. There is still room for inference in the statement "I rape babies" even though there is no direct criticism in the statement.
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Real or not... some think it isn't and they are generally the ones guilty of being Politically Correct.

    Thoughts....
    It is both a real thing and a tool of deflection.

    There are times were unreasonable pussy footing is expected because people do not want to hear the truth. I.e Don't call big people fat.

    There are times where someone is being a jackass and hides behind the misnomer of "politically correctness" as a shield from criticism in his/her rhetoric.

    I.e. Some may say it is the undeniable truth that blacks are savages and any dissent of this reality is political correctness. But in actual reality the person is a racist and any opposition to his/her racist belief is not "political correctness" but regular ol' reason and rationality.

    I rarely see any accusations of polictical correctness used reasonably. It's usually just a catch all phrase that can conveniently misdirect criticism of certain beliefs.
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    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You are funny. Your attempt to "dimiss" was the "deflection"...
    "It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to." - W. C. Fields

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Pozessed View Post
    The person wearing that shirt may be criticizing orphans are overly sensitive. There is still room for inference in the statement "I rape babies" even though there is no direct criticism in the statement.
    You are reaching... it is not criticizing. Just make a different analogy and move on.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    "Political correctness" is just a disparaging term for social norms. When somebody fails to live up to a social norm, people criticize them and in order to dismiss the criticism, they call it "political correctness." Now, certainly there are cases where somebody is overly zealous in applying social norms or misunderstands something somebody did or said and incorrectly identifies it as breaching a social norm. But, in my experience, far more often, when somebody cries "political correctness," the person complaining about it actually did do something that society finds unacceptable.

    And, as annoying as it may be to live in a world where social norms exist, they're a fundamental part of the whole survival strategy of our species. What we think of as morality is just longstanding social norms. The reason we're able to live together in communities and avoid the most destructive behaviors is that social norms are so effective.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    It is both a real thing and a tool of deflection.

    There are times were unreasonable pussy footing is expected because people do not want to hear the truth. I.e Don't call big people fat.

    There are times where someone is being a jackass and hides behind the misnomer of "politically correctness" as a shield from criticism in his/her rhetoric.

    I.e. Some may say it is the undeniable truth that blacks are savages and any dissent of this reality is political correctness. But in actual reality the person is a racist and any opposition to his/her racist belief is not "political correctness" but regular ol' reason and rationality.

    I rarely see any accusations of polictical correctness used reasonably. It's usually just a catch all phrase that can conveniently misdirect criticism of certain beliefs.
    Good post.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    "Political correctness" is just a disparaging term for social norms. When somebody fails to live up to a social norm, people criticize them and in order to dismiss the criticism, they call it "political correctness." Now, certainly there are cases where somebody is overly zealous in applying social norms or misunderstands something somebody did or said and incorrectly identifies it as breaching a social norm. But, in my experience, far more often, when somebody cries "political correctness," the person complaining about it actually did do something that society finds unacceptable.

    And, as annoying as it may be to live in a world where social norms exist, they're a fundamental part of the whole survival strategy of our species. What we think of as morality is just longstanding social norms. The reason we're able to live together in communities and avoid the most destructive behaviors is that social norms are so effective.
    Social norms are different than social conformity and political correctness arises when people criticize others for not conforming.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Political Correctness

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    Have a nice day then...
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Social norms are different than social conformity and political correctness arises when people criticize others for not conforming.
    What is the difference between social norms and enforcing social conformity? Seems to me like they're just two ways of describing the same thing with different connotations.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    What is the difference between social norms and enforcing social conformity? Seems to me like they're just two ways of describing the same thing with different connotations.
    Social norms are just how society normally functions... natural flow. Acceptance. We stand in lines. We hold the door for people. We don't yell at babies...

    Social conformity can be to conform to the norms but I mean it as being forced to conform to what others demand. That is political correctness and/or laws.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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