View Poll Results: Which would you support on federal or state property?

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Thread: If you support the government flying the confederate flag......

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    If you support the government flying the confederate flag......

    If you support the government flying the confederate flag would you also support flying these flags on federal property as a symbol of pride and history? As someone already pointed out, removing the words on the pictures. Just using the symbols themselves.

    If you support the government flying the confederate flag......-codex_181-jpgIf you support the government flying the confederate flag......-panther-power1-jpg
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    Re: If you support the government flying the confederate flag......

    Is there some significant memorial these flags should be flying on?
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    Re: If you support the government flying the confederate flag......

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Is there some significant memorial these flags should be flying on?
    State capitols, white house. Any federal or state buildings.
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    Re: If you support the government flying the confederate flag......

    Keeping in mind that although these symbols are racist to many, or signify race to many, some view these as a symbol of pride and history.
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    Re: If you support the government flying the confederate flag......

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    State capitols, white house. Any federal or state buildings.
    Wrong. They are in no way relevant to any significant memorial.
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    Re: If you support the government flying the confederate flag......

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wrong. They are in no way relevant to any significant memorial.
    I never claimed it was. The question is pretty simple. Do you support flying these flags and/or the confederate flag or neither on government property.
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    Re: If you support the government flying the confederate flag......

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I never claimed it was. The question is pretty simple. Do you support flying these flags and/or the confederate flag or neither on government property.
    And my answer was in the form of a question; "Is there some significant memorial these flags should be flying on?"

    Intelligent folks would understand the reply as meaning that if you can show there is a significant memorial that they should be flying on, it would be ok. Duh!
    They would also understand the question alluding to an unobtainable position as there is no significant memorial on Government property to which they are relevant, let alone comparable to the Battle flag.
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    Re: If you support the government flying the confederate flag......

    Not the federal, but any state that decides it wants to fly those flags is up to the people of those states. That's the problem with continually lumping them together as you have here. They are separate entities in their grants of power.

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    Re: If you support the government flying the confederate flag......

    I don't think the official flag of the KKK is the confederate flag, I could be wrong, I don't check those things out lol...and I think many have good arguments saying that in history the battle flag did not mean slavery to most people of the time and the civil war was a conflict with many reasons and to pin it on just black and white, slavery and no slavery would be a disservice to the 400,000 confederate soldiers that died, the country was broken and conflicted and shaming a large amount of peoples ancestors does no good to me.... but many people today don't give two s***'s about them anymore so, whatever

    What do the symbols on the flag mean? The black fist? Doesn't that directly mean black power? And I couldn't find what the Black Panther logo means, just that it was the logo of the black panther party.... But if someone were to tell me it's a symbol for equal civil rights for african americans... I would believe them. And I would be fine with that in STATE government places, if it's relevant, like idk a ground for civil rights or whatever. And if these same people denounce the black panther party...which they are often related to(Much like the kkk relating to the confederate flag)
    Then yea, It would be the same and I would see no problem.

    The symbols in the confederate flag strictly means separating from the union.
    Last edited by celticwar17; 06-25-15 at 01:04 PM.

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    Re: If you support the government flying the confederate flag......

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    If you support the government flying the confederate flag would you also support flying these flags on federal property as a symbol of pride and history? As someone already pointed out, removing the words on the pictures. Just using the symbols themselves.

    If you support the government flying the confederate flag......-codex_181-jpgIf you support the government flying the confederate flag......-panther-power1-jpg
    There is no significant "history" attached to the Black Panther flag which any government should feel compelled to honor. Just about the only thing it represents is a racist and quasi-terrorist Cold War-era hate group, which is still active and engaging in acts of violence in many parts of the country.

    By way of contrast, not only has the questionable organization that the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia was originally affiliated with been dead and gone for more than 150 years, but, being a "battle" flag, it was never even that organization's official symbol to begin with. Beyond which, the governments and people of Southern states actually can claim that the flag represents a significant aspect of their history and heritage. The Black Panthers never had any official government representation, and their political and cultural influence was quite limited at best.

    It's simply not the same thing. A better comparison would be trying to put up some sort of "Klu Klux Klan" memorial. Good luck with that one! lol
    Last edited by Gathomas88; 06-25-15 at 01:23 PM.

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