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    should we rename military bases

    With all the talk about removing the confederate flag over govt property,why not discuss us govt property being named in memorial of famous confederate generals.


    for example fort lee in virginia is named after general lee,fort hood in texas is named after general hood in texas. Altogether there are ten military bases named after confederate military leaders.
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    Re: should we rename military bases

    No, mainly because it would start a mess.
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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    With all the talk about removing the confederate flag over govt property,why not discuss us govt property being named in memorial of famous confederate generals.


    for example fort lee in virginia is named after general lee,fort hood in texas is named after general hood in texas. Altogether there are ten military bases named after confederate military leaders.
    That makes as little sense as removing all slave owners from US currency.
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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That makes as little sense as removing all slave owners from US currency.
    Weeeeeell, not really. As abhorrent and vile as slavery was and is, the better argument against naming things after Confederate generals is that they were all traitors. Washington and Jefferson may have owned slaves, but it wasn't their moral or philosophical aptitude that put their faces on the money -- it was their contribution to the nation.

    Lee, Jackson, Hood, Beauregard, etc., were all traitors to the United States, and for this reason alone they should not be venerated, but reviled.

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    Re: should we rename military bases

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    Re: should we rename military bases

    I don't think that is necessary. They were military tacticians so I think it is appropriate. We were at war with Native Americans and yet we name many of our weapons systems after them out of respective for their warrior ethos. I don't think the criteria for military names should be the same as the criteria for deciding what flags to fly on a state building.

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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Weeeeeell, not really. As abhorrent and vile as slavery was and is, the better argument against naming things after Confederate generals is that they were all traitors. Washington and Jefferson may have owned slaves, but it wasn't their moral or philosophical aptitude that put their faces on the money -- it was their contribution to the nation.

    Lee, Jackson, Hood, Beauregard, etc., were all traitors to the United States, and for this reason alone they should not be venerated, but reviled.
    Using that logic then those fighting the British in our revolutionary war were traitors as well. Rebellion against the current government is only "valid" if you win. .
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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    With all the talk about removing the confederate flag over govt property,why not discuss us govt property being named in memorial of famous confederate generals.


    for example fort lee in virginia is named after general lee,fort hood in texas is named after general hood in texas. Altogether there are ten military bases named after confederate military leaders.
    Military forts are different than the flag that a state sanctions. Don't get me wrong...I'd prefer we have Fort Bradly, Fort Eisenhower, Fort Patton, Fort Pershing...etc...would be nice if they were named for guys that led our forces when the nation was united against foreign threats...and actually won...but I don't think it's the same thing as the confederate flag.
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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Using that logic then those fighting the British in our revolutionary war were traitors as well. Rebellion against the current government is only "valid" if you win. .
    Not only if you win (but winning is a factor), but also the reason you are rebelling. If you look at the reasons for the Revolutionary War and the reasons for the Civil War you may notice that the reasons are a bit different. But yes, they were traitors to England.
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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Yes. Vitally important. I'm in favor of changing Fort Lee to Spanky's Playground.
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