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    Re: should we rename military bases

    NO
    There is a difference between a name(intangible) and a definite object(tangible) . . Name changing will accomplish nothing .. except needless expense .

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    There ought to be a camp PoS.

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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Yes, given that I'm not in favor of any support or recognition of a rogue state that was founded to preserve slavery.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That makes as little sense as removing all slave owners from US currency.
    well exactly but the whole flag debate is back open,why not bring everything into the discussion???im waiting for native americans to protest american flags on reservations,or whatever the next thing is that people are gonna throw a fit about.
    “You can lead a horse to water, but it is probably crowded with all those people you taught to fish.”

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    Re: should we rename military bases

    We need to develop a purity test for these kinds of things. Don't want people to be offended or triggered.
    "I believe in a Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."

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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Using that logic then those fighting the British in our revolutionary war were traitors as well. Rebellion against the current government is only "valid" if you win. .
    Indeed, as cliche as it is, history is written by the victors. Still, it's rather clear to see that the real status quo is indeed that a rebellion comprises acts by rebels, or traitors. The US managed to carve itself a nice chunk of the Eastern seaboard to be its homeland, but it's certainly true that before the US was a nation, the patriot army were rebels and traitors.

    It's not necessarily a judgment call; only a fact. I'm quite glad that that particular band of traitors succeeded in their rebellion.

    The Confederates were also traitors and rebels. They lost, and so they'll never have the glory of shirking off the label of traitor, as that it what they remain.

    Not to mention, after all of this, that their cause was a terrible one. I'm happy the southern traitors were crushed, as any American should be.

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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Next we'll be hearing how every confederate person, colonel, general - picture or statue, plaque or placard, will be removed and banned. Perhaps the people pushing this nonsense will only be happy once America has erased everything having to do with the South - good or bad - up to and including history, symbols, letters, journals, films, books, etc... until 1880. That way we can effectively brush under the rug about 100 years worth of offensive things people don't want to discuss, don't want to address or don't want to remember.

    The agitations and knee jerk reactions are just amazing to behold.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Indeed, as cliche as it is, history is written by the victors. Still, it's rather clear to see that the real status quo is indeed that a rebellion comprises acts by rebels, or traitors. The US managed to carve itself a nice chunk of the Eastern seaboard to be its homeland, but it's certainly true that before the US was a nation, the patriot army were rebels and traitors.

    It's not necessarily a judgment call; only a fact. I'm quite glad that that particular band of traitors succeeded in their rebellion.

    The Confederates were also traitors and rebels. They lost, and so they'll never have the glory of shirking off the label of traitor, as that it what they remain.

    Not to mention, after all of this, that their cause was a terrible one. I'm happy the southern traitors were crushed, as any American should be.
    Perhaps you should ask some Native Americans just how honorable and freedom loving the nation was after defeating those southern state traitors. Was the cause of finding gold in the Black Hills justification for relocating (wiping our?) the tribes that held title to those lands? The US (union?) army was not fighting for only noble causes - freeing the slaves was one cause but killing any that resisted the latest westward expansion plans was also a cause.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Perhaps you should ask some Native Americans just how honorable and freedom loving the nation was after defeating those southern state traitors. Was the cause of finding gold in the Black Hills justification for relocating (wiping our?) the tribes that held title to those lands? The US (union?) army was not fighting for only noble causes - freeing the slaves was one cause but killing any that resisted the latest westward expansion plans was also a cause.
    I didn't think we'd have to get even more cliche, but here's another: Two wrongs don't make a right.

    Or, more accurately, the North may indeed have been fighting a war primarily concerned with maintaining control and sovereignty over the rebellious states and crushing any (Southerner or Native) that opposed them -- but that doesn't make the South's cause any less abhorrent.

    Maybe we should bring a third cliche, the lesser of two evils, into play here.

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    Re: should we rename military bases

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    With all the talk about removing the confederate flag over govt property,why not discuss us govt property being named in memorial of famous confederate generals.


    for example fort lee in virginia is named after general lee,fort hood in texas is named after general hood in texas. Altogether there are ten military bases named after confederate military leaders.
    Yes! It's also probably going to happen sooner or later. The flags will come down first, then we'll rename roads, then after the cultural tide has shifted more we'll start renaming the forts.

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