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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    It's definitely the liberal left-wing and the hatred spewed daily by the Obama administration and the Holder no Justice Department.

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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Maybe blame the fact that he's a drug addict, or a crazy psychopath??

    But you don't have random drug addicts going around shooting a certain voting bloc of people for no reason. The kid was very clear, it was about his conservative ideology. America has millions of drug addicts. You trying to argue they all go around killing political voting blocs is dishonest. You know it was influenced by Republican ideology.

    Again, let's have some evidence:



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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    But you don't have random drug addicts going around shooting a certain voting bloc of people for no reason. The kid was very clear, it was about his conservative ideology. America has millions of drug addicts. You trying to argue they all go around killing political voting blocs is dishonest. You know it was influenced by Republican ideology.

    Again, let's have some evidence:


    There are millions more conservatives than drug addicts.... so how come they're not all out there murdering people?

    I think you're drawing the conclusion that you want to draw, without really giving it much thought.

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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    By that logic...

    1.) Terrorism is evil

    2.) Islam and terrorism have been very closely tied to each other since WW2

    3.) Draw your own conclusions from (1) and (2)


    but but but.... that wouldn't be PC and it wouldn't fall in neatly with the liberal agenda. So unless you're willing to say that Islam is evil, you need to bite your tongue.
    Your analogy doesn't work, I'm afraid.

    Many people have committed terrorist acts in the name of Islam. That doesn't necessarily mean that they're all observant Muslims.

    By all accounts, Dylann Roof was a very loyal conservative.
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    After scanning through some of the threads, clearly there are opinions on this so don't be shy, which "side" is to blame?

    Getting the poll together.
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Your analogy doesn't work, I'm afraid.

    Many people have committed terrorist acts in the name of Islam. That doesn't necessarily mean that they're all observant Muslims.

    By all accounts, Dylann Roof was a very loyal conservative.
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I think it's disgusting and in incredibly poor taste that the left has decided to take what is a national tragedy and a very sad situation, AND POLITICIZE IT.

    There's something sick and sinister about the OPPORTUNISM on display by the left in this instance, and America needs to stand up and take notice.
    You mean like how so many on the right felt the need to remind us constantly that, after the recent riots, Baltimore had been run by Democrats for decades? That kind of sadness?
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Your analogy doesn't work, I'm afraid.

    Many people have committed terrorist acts in the name of Islam. That doesn't necessarily mean that they're all observant Muslims.

    By all accounts, Dylann Roof was a very loyal conservative.
    Lies, and poor ones at that.

    Roof burned American flags, while proudly displaying the flags of defunct racist African nations. He was not a "Conservative." If you think otherwise, you clearly don't understand what the word even means.
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Lies, and poor ones at that.

    Roof burned American flags, while proudly displaying the flags of defunct racist African nations. He was not a "Conservative." If you think otherwise, you clearly don't understand what the word even means.
    Do you mean to tell us that no conservative group has ever burned a flag? Are you sure about that?
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    I prefer to answer with words over polls, so here it is:

    1. Racism is evil.

    2. In the US, conservatism and racism have been very closely tied to each other since at least the mid-1850s.

    3. Draw your own conclusions from (1) and (2).
    I cannot accept that logic.

    Point one is mainly correct, although I would prefer "racism is wrong", as it seems possible to be racist due to misunderstanding of reality, rather than due to evil, although it's a close thing (and largely dependent on how a given individual responds to accurate data).

    Point two is wrong, so far as I know. However, even if it is correct, it does not make this specific event somehow the fault of conservatives (a term that is very general to being with).

    Thus when we move to point three, any conclusions drawn are likely flawed.



    All that said, any person, no matter their position, who tries to claim racism is dead in the US or the world is a ****ing idiot and should never be elected to any political office.
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