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  • Stupid Question, no political lean is at fault and/or responible for the shooting

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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
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    Yep, the three stooges were quite extreme.
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Its funny that this poll is 100% at "stupid question". Reading through a lot of the other threads on this shooting you will see quite a few posters blaming conservatives.
    It also funny how many Conservatives on the national scene have flubbed their response and made them look guilty by skirting the truth. All they needed to do was denounce this a racist hate crime like Roof himself stated but no it was a "mystery", an "accident" or a time to make jokes about guns.

    Ted Cruz keeps cracking jokes about guns as Americans mourn Charleston terror attack

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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It also funny how many Conservatives on the national scene have flubbed their response and made them look guilty by skirting the truth. All they needed to do was denounce this a racist hate crime like Roof himself stated but no it was a "mystery", an "accident" or a time to make jokes about guns.
    Really. Seriously. This.

    They would have still caught hell for doing so, but even a "no comment" would have been better.
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It is funny, isn't it? Often, when I ask a poll question, some very outspoken folks suddenly seem very shy.
    If you had given a choice like "Roof was inspired by the radical right websites and FOX news" I would have voted for it.

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    Last edited by iguanaman; 06-23-15 at 03:43 PM.

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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If you had given a choice like "Roof was inspired by the radical right websites and FOX news" I would have voted for it.
    Sure, but "inspired by" and "responsible for" are not the same thing.
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If you had given a choice like "Roof was inspired by the radical right websites and FOX news" I would have voted for it.

    Fox News' Racial Crime Coverage Is Hurting People | Blog | Media Matters for America
    Actual Nazis were/are right wing (extreme, though).

    No overall political lean is responsible for this at all, however - the guy made his decisions and ended up where he is.

    The problem may be that we ignore this kind of thing until it gets out of hand.

    I read somewhere that his roommate knew he was planning something like this, but (I'm assuming) did nothing because he thought it was just insane ranting, or the like.

    He was probably like "yeah, sure, whatever (walks away carefully)"

    Edit: This story mentions what I'm talking about: Charleston Shooting: A Closer Look at Alleged Gunman Dylann Roof - ABC News
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Sure, but "inspired by" and "responsible for" are not the same thing.
    It depend on how sensitive you are. I doubt the authors of those racist sites he mentioned are going to lose any sleep over it if that is what you mean. They will keep writing their racist lies and preaching hate, no doubt.

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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    This is ridiculous.

    The guy was clearly nuts...whacko...around the bend...looped.

    Politics has nothing to do with this...insanity has everything to do with it.
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    After scanning through some of the threads, clearly there are opinions on this so don't be shy, which "side" is to blame?

    Getting the poll together.
    I prefer to answer with words over polls, so here it is:

    1. Racism is evil.

    2. In the US, conservatism and racism have been very closely tied to each other since at least the mid-1850s.

    3. Draw your own conclusions from (1) and (2).
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    Re: Which political lean is most responsible for the shooting in Charleston?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It depend on how sensitive you are. I doubt the authors of those racist sites he mentioned are going to lose any sleep over it if that is what you mean. They will keep writing their racist lies and preaching hate, no doubt.
    No doubt. "Inspired by" and "responsible for" can both be involved, generically speaking, but they're still different things. The two don't have to be wholly mutually exclusive.
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