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    Re: Will there be genocide in South Africa?

    Don't get ahead of yourself. The Economic Freedom Fighters are indeed quite terrible. But there is a reason for their existence in the first place. South Africa's largest political parties are either woefully corrupt (the African National Congress) or they consist of a weak, ineffective, and frankly pathetic opposition (the Democratic Alliance). Like UKIP in Britain, EFF's support is inflated because they are an 'anti-system' party. A lot of their voters are simply protest voters who are unsatisfied with the current powers-that-be, and don't actually buy into the party's rhetoric on race. Not to mention that EFF only got 6% of the vote in last year's general election.

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    Re: Will there be genocide in South Africa?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Don't get ahead of yourself. The Economic Freedom Fighters are indeed quite terrible. But there is a reason for their existence in the first place. South Africa's largest political parties are either woefully corrupt (the African National Congress) or they consist of a weak, ineffective, and frankly pathetic opposition (the Democratic Alliance). Like UKIP in Britain, EFF's support is inflated because they are an 'anti-system' party. A lot of their voters are simply protest voters who are unsatisfied with the current powers-that-be, and don't actually buy into the party's rhetoric on race. Not to mention that EFF only got 6% of the vote in last year's general election.



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    Re: Will there be genocide in South Africa?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Don't get ahead of yourself. The Economic Freedom Fighters are indeed quite terrible. But there is a reason for their existence in the first place. South Africa's largest political parties are either woefully corrupt (the African National Congress) or they consist of a weak, ineffective, and frankly pathetic opposition (the Democratic Alliance). Like UKIP in Britain, EFF's support is inflated because they are an 'anti-system' party. A lot of their voters are simply protest voters who are unsatisfied with the current powers-that-be, and don't actually buy into the party's rhetoric on race. Not to mention that EFF only got 6% of the vote in last year's general election.



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    Re: Will there be genocide in South Africa?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    Why would you have any words to say against a great idea?
    Maybe they should just provide separate laws and facilities for black and white people.
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    Re: Will there be genocide in South Africa?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Maybe they should just provide separate laws and facilities for black and white people.
    It worked better then what is happening now. Just end this marriage and be done with it.

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    Re: Will there be genocide in South Africa?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I worry about South Africa, post-Mandela. I wonder if you do the same... assuming you're aware of how things are changing on the ground there.

    In the following video, the current president of South Africa sings a very disturbing song. I will let you listen for yourself.




    The conditions for genocide seem to be rolling to a high boil, and it is troubling.

    Dr. Gregory Stanton, head of Genocide Watch, warned that South Africa was at Stage 6 out of 8 on the road to genocide: the planning and preparation phase. “There is thus strong circumstantial evidence of government support for the campaign of forced displacement and atrocities...there is direct evidence of government incitement to genocide.”


    In addition to the government inciting violence, as we have learned from the example of Nazi Germany and their genocide, often a precursor to such atrocity is a collapse in the general economy and welfare of the people. It's easy to whip up a pitchfork-wielding mob when the people are starving, jobless, and angry. Just give them someone to blame.


    In the past 20 years, unemployment, poverty, AIDS, murder, corruption and crime all have all surged, and South Africa now regularly tops the charts worldwide in terms of rape and murder. A child is said to be raped every 3 minutes in that country, and as many as a quarter of all South African women report to have been raped. Hate crime is at an all-time high. Unemployment tops 25 percent officially (double the rate 20 years ago), 40% unofficially. Half the population lives on a dollar a day.

    Average life expectancy has plummeted to 53 years old, in the rest of the world it is around 70 years old.

    Just as the Nazi party made no secret of what they were planning to do (although it fell upon deaf ears at the time), neither are the forces in South Africa making any secret of their plans.

    In a post titled “The Bullet or the Bullet,” the South Africa-based outfit “BlaqSoul Afrika,” said, “We are not fighiting a faceless oppressor, the oppressor is not just a system of white supremacy, the oppressor is the white race, and when we speak of the distraction of white supremacy in its totality, we speak of the distraction of the white race in its totality!”

    The post presumably meant “destruction” of the white race, rather than distraction.

    “Now repeat after me Black woman and Black man: The oppressor has a face and the face is white. We ought to wipe out the white face, ending our suffering as a people! Black power!”


    Another example.... The EFF political party (Economic Freedom Fighters) has as one of its stated goals: “Fight white males.”





    The situation reminds me a bit of what happened in Zimbabwe a few decades ago, under Mugabe. After taking over, horrific tragedy followed as people were slaughtered en mass. Zimbabwe, once considered the breadbasket of Africa, is now suffering from mass starvation and is totally dependent on international food aid. I hope the same does not happen to South Africa.


    Does the situation concern you?
    It concerns me greatly. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, the methodical nature and the increasing level of attacks against white farmers already constitute a genocide -- just not a very effective one, yet.

    The Afrikaners have done many bad things in the past, and perhaps it is well that they'll always be known for apartheid, but they have an equal claim to that land, and they are not all evil people. They should be protected, and it's a damn shame they're being thrown under the bus.

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    Re: Will there be genocide in South Africa?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    Should their be a race war the SA Special Forces and Air Force will unleash Hell on the leadership. They are something to the tune of 90% White.

    Should just divide the nation in two and go their separate ways. Maybe allow the Whites to come to America, we could use some hard working, gun loving, Liberty minded Voters.
    What makes the Afrikaners the Afrikaners, though, is that they feel Africa is their homeland. They should be allowed a homeland like anyone else -- it's downright racist to say they should have to pack up and go back to Europe or to another European colony-successor like America or Canada.

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    Re: Will there be genocide in South Africa?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    It concerns me greatly. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, the methodical nature and the increasing level of attacks against white farmers already constitute a genocide -- just not a very effective one, yet.

    The Afrikaners have done many bad things in the past, and perhaps it is well that they'll always be known for apartheid, but they have an equal claim to that land, and they are not all evil people. They should be protected, and it's a damn shame they're being thrown under the bus.
    I agree, and it's especially concerning when the victims are women and children, some of whom were not even alive during apartheid. One would hope that whites and blacks would be able to live together in peace in South Africa, but things don't appear to be heading down that path at the moment. It's very unfortunate.

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    Re: Will there be genocide in South Africa?

    Question is, what is the likelihood of something like this coming to America? Are we all that far from it?
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    Re: Will there be genocide in South Africa?

    As a 27 year old white male, not at all.


    Educated White South Africans already leave the country for the US. Texas has plenty of them as do many other areas of the country. They also leave for the UK or Australia.






    That said, no genocide will not happen in SA. SA political elite and business elite blacks already know that white South Africans are who fuel their economy and keep investment in the country. They're not about to willingly become a Zimbabwe mess. They'll keep the whites. However I have to say that I feel no sympathy for whites in South Africa. Africa is a troubled place and they should immigrate out of it as soon as they can upon achieving enough ability to do so economically. Whites who choose to permanently stay in Africa are not worthy of sympathy in my view.


    Any whites in Africa have to answer a basic truth about them staying there. What happens when the next historical US depression happens and the world collapses and falls into world war? Such is why almost all educated white South Africans leave the continent. It's just not rational to stay. You're basically betting that "The world will be perfect forever" which is a very bad bet.
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