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Confederate Flag[W:1518,2230, 2241]

Should the Confederate Flag be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 30.2%
  • No

    Votes: 127 69.8%

  • Total voters
    182
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don't care if he's nuts... at least he's doing something to take back the symbol instead of just whimpering, whining, and wishing it would disappear forever and ever

the swastika is a very cool symbol.. and it sucks the entire world is still under Hitlers power.



What power does a dead man have over anything?

Fill us in.

:lol:

You are out of touch with reality.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

The argument is that it represents racism and slavery. That is stupid.

You forgot treason.

It does represent racism and slavery. That can't be white washed.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Some people on this planet see racism for what it is.

Others will ignore it until the end of time.

And some people fan the flames of racism by accusing non-racists of being racist.

Those people are the part of the problem - not the solution.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

So do State Flags in the South. Should Mississippi have their's removed and stigmatized as well? Georgia?

Yes...
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Sherman disagrees.

He is outnumbered. In addition, Sherman a long time to grind the CSA down north of Atlanta to the point where they no longer had an effective army in front of him.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

How about murdering innocent Black people in a church?

Do you think that anyone should be proud of that?

Fill us in.

:lol:



Some people on this planet see racism for what it is.

Others will ignore it until the end of time.

But the racist Confederate flags that some states display will come down.

Wait and see.

No one can stop time and/or change.

The clock is ticking.

I don't think a disturbed individual committing an atrocious mass murder has anything to do with a flag.

I think this entire discussion is retaliatory. But you know what.... if you're filled with anger and need to retaliate against something, better a flag than something more valuable
 
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I don't think a disturbed individual committing an atrocious mass murder has anything to do with a flag.

I think this entire discussion is retaliatory. But you know what.... if you're filled with anger and need to retaliate against something, better a flag than something more valuable

It's interesting how your argument is "it's just a piece of cloth" but I bet you don't feel that way when people want to abolish the Pledge of Allegiance or burn the American flag.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

It's interesting how your argument is "it's just a piece of cloth" but I bet you don't feel that way when people want to abolish the Pledge of Allegiance or burn the American flag.

My point was that the symbolism is something we ascribe to it. You might think of the confederate flag as a symbol of racism, I think of it as a symbol of the south without that stigma. There's nothing inherent about the flag either way, just your opinion and mine (and by the poll results, it's fairly evenly divided)

I will say.... it's a bit disingenuous that most of the "haters" of the confederate flag seem to be northerners who don't have any skin in the game. Would be a more meaningful debate for southerners to have among themselves, in my opinion
 
Re: Confederate Flag

My point was that the symbolism is something we ascribe to it. You might think of the confederate flag as a symbol of racism, I think of it as a symbol of the south without that stigma. There's nothing inherent about the flag either way, just your opinion and mine (and by the poll results, it's fairly evenly divided)

I will say.... it's a bit disingenuous that most of the "haters" of the confederate flag seem to be northerners who don't have any skin in the game. Would be a more meaningful debate for southerners to have among themselves, in my opinion

You prefer to whitewash the South's well-earned stigma. The flag was created due to the stigma you wish to ignore.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

It's odd of you to call it patriotism. It's southern pride, just like I said. Nothing wrong with being proud of where you come from.

No. I am not calling it patriotism. I am saying it is an odd sense of patriotism when someone waives a flag representing a failed rebellion. To clarify: one's patriotism to the United States is undermined by them cheering the failed rebellion against it.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

He is outnumbered. In addition, Sherman a long time to grind the CSA down north of Atlanta to the point where they no longer had an effective army in front of him.

Whether it took a year or 5 to "grind down" the resistance matters not. In the end, the South got whooped...pretty bad. Or are you of mind to argue that the Nazis and Imperial Japanese didn't really get their asses handed to them since it took a while to grind them down?
 
Re: Confederate Flag

You forgot treason.

It does represent racism and slavery. That can't be white washed.

First and foremost it represents treason. Slavery and racism are right behind it. So, yeah--IMO, people who waive it are a special kind of stupid.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

First and foremost it represents treason. Slavery and racism are right behind it. So, yeah--IMO, people who waive it are a special kind of stupid.

And people are still free to be all sorts of special kind of stupid in this country.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

And people are still free to be all sorts of special kind of stupid in this country.

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Which has nothing to do with my statement. People are free to be stupid and text while walking (and fall into open manholes). People are free to make horrible business decisions and go into bankruptcy. People are free to join racist organizations like the New Black Panther Party or the KKK. People are free to drink and ride dirt bikes in the woods in the dark. People are also allowed to buy a little flag and fly it if they so wish - no flag that I know of is outlawed from being owned and flown privately (excluding Condo Association rules, etc.).
 
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Which has nothing to do with my statement. People are free to be stupid and text while walking (and fall into open manholes). People are free to make horrible business decisions and go into bankruptcy. People are free to join racist organizations like the New Black Panther Party or the KKK. People are free to drink and ride dirt bikes in the woods in the dark. People are also allowed to buy a little flag and fly it if they so wish - no flag that I know of is outlawed from being owned and flown privately (excluding Condo Association rules, etc.).

Are you against the new law in Virginia?

Virginia Just Banned Using ‘Cuss Words’ In Public

Just curious to see how consistent your idea of free speech is.


BTW: I don't care if Bubba puts a Rebel Yell flag on his pick-up. But, it should not be hanging on government property.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it."
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Are you against the new law in Virginia?

Virginia Just Banned Using ‘Cuss Words’ In Public

Just curious to see how consistent your idea of free speech is.
BTW: I don't care if Bubba puts a Rebel Yell flag on his pick-up. But, it should not be hanging on government property.

"Bubba" is it? This is the same mentality that gives rise to categorizing gays and minorities. "Those people all look alike". All homosexuals want to have sex with everyone". If you r name is Willie you must be black. This is yet another example of people claiming to view people as equals as long as there are none in their neighborhood.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Are you against the new law in Virginia?

Virginia Just Banned Using ‘Cuss Words’ In Public

Just curious to see how consistent your idea of free speech is.
Yes I'm against it. It's stupid and people have a right to say what they want to say regardless if others find offense in it.


BTW: I don't care if Bubba puts a Rebel Yell flag on his pick-up. But, it should not be hanging on government property.

That's is up to the State flying it - if the voters deem that the confederate flag should not fly on government property, there will be a referendum and a vote to either remove it or leave it be. I live North of the Mason Dixon line and was raised a Northerner so I have little to say about it and I cannot say I understand those who are for or against it other than what I read. Ultimately, if the voter want it gone, it will be gone.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Yes I'm against it. It's stupid and people have a right to say what they want to say regardless if others find offense in it.




That's is up to the State flying it - if the voters deem that the confederate flag should not fly on government property, there will be a referendum and a vote to either remove it or leave it be. I live North of the Mason Dixon line and was raised a Northerner so I have little to say about it and I cannot say I understand those who are for or against it other than what I read. Ultimately, if the voter want it gone, it will be gone.


If the voters of a state want to fly a flag associated with rebellion, treason, and murder of USA citizens, then they (nor their state) should receive any federal funding of any kind.
 
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If the voters of a state want to fly a flag associated with rebellion, treason, and murder of USA citizens, then they (nor their state) should receive any federal funding of any kind.

Are you now advocating taxation without representation? ;)
 
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Whether it took a year or 5 to "grind down" the resistance matters not. In the end, the South got whooped...pretty bad. Or are you of mind to argue that the Nazis and Imperial Japanese didn't really get their asses handed to them since it took a while to grind them down?

I guess it just depends on how you interpret the phrase "get their asses handed to them".
 
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