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Confederate Flag[W:1518,2230, 2241]

Should the Confederate Flag be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 30.2%
  • No

    Votes: 127 69.8%

  • Total voters
    182
Re: Confederate Flag

That guy is a ****ing nutcase... :lol:

ManWoman given his name from the dream people when he went to the something of the sacred womb and met the guy in the white robes?

:lol:

don't care if he's nuts... at least he's doing something to take back the symbol instead of just whimpering, whining, and wishing it would disappear forever and ever

the swastika is a very cool symbol.. and it sucks the entire world is still under Hitlers power.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

from what i've been told by southerners, it doesn't represent "just one thing".

just as the American flag represents different things to different people, so it is with other flags.

the thing is , people are getting all gushy over the US flag... utterly ignoring the vast amount of atrocities and evil that occurred under it... and then turning around and crapping all over a flag that was once held by a rebel nation for 4 short years.

I contend that flag has more to do with modern state of South Carolina that it does with the CSA....

I understand many folks are incapable of changing their perspective on such matters... but i think it's rather silly, and ironic, to be held slave by a symbol.
but I also understand in this ultra PC world we live in, stuff like this is impossible to get over... we are, after all, a perpetually offended nation.
I'm also sure nothign will change in regards ot racism, murder, segregation, and slavery... but at least we can say we did " something".. even if that something doesn't affect anything.

so I dunno.. might as well just ban flags altogether...especially if we're going to be hypocritical about them.

No one is ignoring the atrocities of America. You are ignoring that we've done pretty well, not great, but pretty well in ending, rectifying or at least learning from our mistakes. That's the difference. The confederacy had no intention of honoring basic human rights for all.

Is that clear enough? Can you make an argument with twisting what other say with ridiculous hyperbole and extreme p paraphrasing? I bet you can't.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

don't care if he's nuts... at least he's doing something to take back the symbol instead of just whimpering, whining, and wishing it would disappear forever and ever

the swastika is a very cool symbol.. and it sucks the entire world is still under Hitlers power.

I didn't say he was doing the wrong thing... just that he is ****ing nuts.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

The flag is a consequential matter, but it is a pity it comes at a time when a shooting occurred.

Uhhh... when ISN'T there a shooting?
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Bodhi. You are white. Of course you wouldn't see it as one of hate.

It's not a stretch that it wouldn't offend you. :lol:

But I know my history. I understand symbols... besides, I feel black lately. I think I self-identify as black and am Trans-Black.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

don't care if he's nuts... at least he's doing something to take back the symbol instead of just whimpering, whining, and wishing it would disappear forever and ever

the swastika is a very cool symbol.. and it sucks the entire world is still under Hitlers power.

I am not hyper PC but I just can't go there thinking a Swastika is cool But like I said knock yourself out and wear one or better yet put one in your front yard. Or even better do a Charles Manson and tattoo one on your forehead.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

No one is ignoring the atrocities of America. You are ignoring that we've done pretty well, not great, but pretty well in ending, rectifying or at least learning from our mistakes. That's the difference. The confederacy had no intention of honoring basic human rights for all.

Is that clear enough? Can you make an argument with twisting what other say with ridiculous hyperbole and extreme p paraphrasing? I bet you can't.

yes, you are ignoring the atrocities of America... no doubt about it.

and sure, we've done pretty damned good changing things as well.
I have zero doubt the CSA, had they survived, would have changed for the better as well.... no doubt whatsoever.

but here's the thing, if you're going to call for a flag to be taken down over atrocities and evil done under it.. then you had better check to see if the flag you are standing under is clean.
in our case, the Stars and Stripes has flown over us while we were much much worse than the CSA ... for much, much, much longer.
hell, even after the CSA was defeated, indians were still being slaughtered under the US flag...by government and civilians, alike

if you're going to argue " yeah, but that was then and this is now...we changed"... that's fine... bring the stars and bars into today with you..... slavery is long dead, the stars and bars no longer flies over that place.... those southern states have changed as well.
the State of South Carolina isn't supportive of slavery, racism, segregation, or murder.... and that's just a fact that doesn't jive with the latest narrative on their flag.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

I am not hyper PC but I just can't go there thinking a Swastika is cool But like I said knock yourself out and wear one or better yet put one in your front yard. Or even better do a Charles Manson and tattoo one on your forehead.

if you hadn't noticed by now, i'm not falling for you making this personal... so stop trying.
maybe if i had more whiskey in me you baiting would work, but i'm sober... so knock it off.

the symbol itself is bad ass... the historical meaning is very cool, especially for hyper-pc folks who offend easily.
the little mustachioed maniac ruined it, and we're still under his power.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

I think the issue really isnt about the flag but about racial politics in the US- that is the one thing that needs to be addressed rather than silly stuff like flags and all that.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Taken down from government buildings? Yes. It sends the wrong message. Abolished? No. It is part of our history and will forever be.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Should the Confederate Flag be removed/abolished?

I say no. The argument is that it represents racism and slavery. That is stupid. So does the American Flag.

People can fly whatever flag they want. Remove that symbol of racism, white supremacism, and treason from government property. Burn it.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

I think the issue really isnt about the flag but about racial politics in the US- that is the one thing that needs to be addressed rather than silly stuff like flags and all that.

shush up... flags are serious business....we'll never end racism if we don't ban flags.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Should the Confederate Flag be removed/abolished?

I say no. The argument is that it represents racism and slavery. That is stupid. So does the American Flag.



No state government should sponsor display of the Confederate flag.

Of course anyone can have it tattooed on their forehead, that's their 1st Amendment right.

:lol:
 
Re: Confederate Flag

This obviously depends on what "abolished" means. I voted no because I assumed it refers to banning display of the confederate flag whatsoever, and I only support an end to its state sponsorship.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

There's nothing wrong with the confederate flag, it's a symbol of the South.

This is just another example of Northerners wanting to deprive Southerners of their unique culture and heritage.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

110,000 dead union soldiers could probably inform you that the CSA was ground down- it did not "have its ass handed to it"

Sherman disagrees.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Korea was no tie... if you don't win you lose. Mexico? Maybe but not that impressive. The Brits burned the White House... that is a loss for that alone.

Native Americans? Not much of a war. We never even fielded an army.... just army units here and there.

A tie is a tie. In hockey it's good for a point. In war it leads to a DMZ and cheap cars. Mexico gave up Texas and Cali...you're right. Not impressive. Brits may have burned the White House, but we chased them up into Detroit--a losing situation by any measure--and then left them with nothing to call their own but Canada.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

There's nothing wrong with the confederate flag, it's a symbol of the South.

This is just another example of Northerners wanting to deprive Southerners of their unique culture and heritage.

A culture of whips, chains and raping African women. Gee lets waive a flag and celebrate.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

A culture of whips, chains and raping African women. Gee lets waive a flag and celebrate.

A flag is nothing more than a piece of cloth. The symbolism is whatever we decide to ascribe to it. I don't know many people who fly the confederate flag (it might surprie you but it's quite rare in Texas, normally what you see here is the Texas state flag which is our own unique heritage), but the ones I have seen, the people having them aren't doing so because they're racist.... it's more a southern pride thing.

And there's a lot more to the south than whips, chains, and raping african women. That's like saying the American flag is all about slaughtering indians, stealing land from Mexico, and dropping nuclear bombs on the Japanese. Nobody is perfect, doesn't mean you can't be proud of where you come from.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

A flag is nothing more than a piece of cloth. The symbolism is whatever we decide to ascribe to it. I don't know many people who fly the confederate flag (it might surprie you but it's quite rare in Texas, normally what you see here is the Texas state flag which is our own unique heritage), but the ones I have seen, the people having them aren't doing so because they're racist.... it's more a southern pride thing.

And there's a lot more to the south than whips, chains, and raping african women. That's like saying the American flag is all about slaughtering indians, stealing land from Mexico, and dropping nuclear bombs on the Japanese. Nobody is perfect, doesn't mean you can't be proud of where you come from.

It's an odd sense of patriotism when someone waives a flag representing a failed rebellion.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

It's an odd sense of patriotism when you waive a flag representing a failed rebellion.

It's odd of you to call it patriotism. It's southern pride, just like I said. Nothing wrong with being proud of where you come from.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

It's odd of you to call it patriotism. It's southern pride, just like I said.
Nothing wrong with being proud of where you come from.



How about murdering innocent Black people in a church?

Do you think that anyone should be proud of that?

Fill us in.

:lol:



Some people on this planet see racism for what it is.

Others will ignore it until the end of time.

But the racist Confederate flags that some states display will come down.

Wait and see.

No one can stop time and/or change.

The clock is ticking.
 
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