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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Good thing I know my history, eh? To repeat a post from earlier in the thread:

    It's what I do for a living.

    For decades.

    BTW: The reason for my user name is because I work with original documents, letters from the Revolutionary War Era to Civil War - some that are now in museums and Institutions. Some have been written about in books.

    Thousands of original Civil war soldiers letters have passed through my hands, Confederate, and Union, (which of course involves a great deal of research) -- as well as original items signed by near every CW General and near every Founder and President...

    Letters and docs actually signed by Jefferson Davis and Abraham Lincoln. Yes. I've touched the exact same paper they touched.

    It's pretty humbling, and it really does give me a depth in history few know of, and quite a unique perspective.

    In addition, I have literally thousands of original newspapers, pamphlets, books in my archives from the 1840's 50's and 60's. I use original sources.

    Going on 30 years now, I have been eating, drinking and breathing history in my each and every day. I think I'm qualified, and from my perspective, it is the many of these Southern neo-confederates types and like-minded people here who have attached to the rewrite of history that was started in the 1890's Lost Cause and is still seeped into the Southern Zeitgeist.
    Good, then cite us the documentation regarding Nathan Bedford Forrest and the KKK.










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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Good, then cite us the documentation regarding Nathan Bedford Forrest and the KKK.
    The father or the son?

    https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...,6238795&hl=en

    Either way, that seems to be your personal bugaboo to battle.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    No I am saying that your grandpa has no relevance in this thread. Hell I dont even believe your story about your grandpa.
    Sadly that does not surprise me. Some people don't want to believe truths handed down through the generations that don't jive with what they have been indoctrinated to believe.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by risky thicket View Post
    much of what has been spread as gospel by some non-southern people here has been folk lore. A few examples:

    Nathan bedford forrest was a founder of the kkk.

    Nathan bedford forrest was the first grand wizard of the kkk.

    Both are undocumented and anecdotal. That hasn't stopped ignorant people from repeating it again and again. The north won the war and they wrote much of the history which in many cases was undocumented and sometimes completely false. The north was scared ****less of bedford forrest and thus northern historians created myths about forrest.

    People who have read books and articles about the war between the states, people who know and understand and/or were brought up with southern traditions and southern culture, know full well that there are astounding number of people on dp who've done nothing more than a google search - at best - before lecturing the rest of us with feigned authority about facts they don't have.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    No assumption has been made. You had a chance to answer an easy question with a simple "yes" or "no," and you opted for avoiding answering altogether. Your non-answer leaves no room for doubt about your supremacist ideas. It's actually a bit of a testimony that you have enough honesty not to lie outright about it and that you're somewhat ashamed of what your answer is. So there's hope for you....slim to be sure but hope, nonetheless. BTW, you didn't learn how to say "there only one race, the human race" from granddaddy. That's a cop-out attempt to use politically correctness to sound tolerant.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    1. Grandpapa's 1990's re-telling to her little girl wide-eyes of his time visiting a Confederate Old Age home in the 1930's and talking to a 100 year old rebel who spent most of his time in a Union prison during the Civil War

    2. Neo-confederate garbage from the White Supremacists Kennedy twins not a single legit historian recognizes as factual.

    3. Daughters of the Confederacy Lost Cause propaganda.

    ^ That's it, folks. The sum and full total of her sources.

    She still doesn't even accept the word "slavery" or "slaves" is in the Confederate Constitution.

    How's that for denial?

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Did we have a war or not?
    We did. Your point?
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    1. Grandpapa's 1990's re-telling of his time visiting a Confederate Old Age home in the 1930's and talking to a 100 year old rebel who spent most of his time in a Union prison during the Civil War

    2. Neo-confederate garbage from the White Supremacists Kennedy twins not a single legit historian recognizes as factual.

    3. Daughters of the Confederacy Lost Cause propaganda.

    ^ That's it, folks. The sum and full total of her sources.

    She still doesn't even accept the word "slavery" or "slaves" is in the Confederate Constitution.

    How's that for denial?
    In other words I read things that tell the truth and supposedly I am in denial??? How funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    As was pointed out before, in ancient times and even now in some places, history is and was handed down orally.
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