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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    That has happened all over the country. That's why those who want people executed quicker need to simmer down. I guess they don't care that they might be killing an innocent person
    Well, I be dogged. We agree on something.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Complete evasion mode? Please. Glad you at least see that the Irish were treated like crap though.
    Every new immigrant group was treated like crap. And it's still happening. Another shameful part of our history. Not nearly like slavery which was many orders of magnitude worse.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    So did Jesse Helms. The people of NC loved him.
    The WHITE segregationists of NC loved him. Your point?

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Who the heck are you talking to?
    You and you know it. It's the third time I've the question about white/north-central European superiority (or not) of you and as many evasions (including this one that you responded to pretending not to know who it was intended for). But as I've said before, your unwilling to answer tells us what we need to know.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    HorseGirl is a nice enough gal, and on other subjects, quite reasonable. I know - I've had literally thousands of interactions with her over a period of several years.

    I can dispell the notion she is a White Supremacist, she's not. She even leans liberal on most things.

    She is however, thoroughly tied to her granddaddy's view of the Confederacy in a rather childlike innocence that has remained with her. Nothing, and I do mean - nothing - you can say will dissuade her of the fables she was told as a child, which she believes to be absolute truth.

    What she gleans from 99% is what she heard gpapa - in an Confederate Old Age home -- from an over 100 year old rebel in the 1930's heard, and her being told this late in his life i(n the 1990's, as I recall).

    In fact, I even looked up the Soldier History of the rebel vet her gpapa told her about, and presented her with the details of him being thrown in a Union prison for most of the war (yeah, that couldn't have had any effect....)

    The other 1% comes from the (completely debunked) Kennedy Twins "The South Was Right."

    She will not look at any information presented outside of those sources. No matter what/

    Trust me on this. Believe me, I've tried. Beyond that, she's a genuinely nice gal.
    The South Was Right is a White Supremacist/ Southern nationalist publication. She insisted that people should read that book, meaning that she is promoting that position. In reality that makes her a White Supremacist/ Southern nationalist proponent. I mean you cant read that book and not walk away with that impression, it would be impossible. So she knows exactly what she is saying and why she is saying it.

    What it shows is the reason why the Confederate flag is often viewed to represent hate. The South Was Right is direct evidence against any argument that the confederate flag has any place on public property outside of actually being in a museum.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    lol. I remember you from the *H* debate board a few years back.

    We had many an interaction....and your posts were so thoroughly demolished, but it looks like you haven't gained much since.

    One of my favorites of yours was how the Confederate Constitution never once mentioned slavery. lol

    That was golden!
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    You and you know it. It's the third time I've the question about white/north-central European superiority (or not) of you and as many evasions (including this one that you responded to pretending not to know who it was intended for). But as I've said before, your unwilling to answer tells us what we need to know.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    The WHITE segregationists of NC loved him. Your point?
    Someone mentioned Strom Thurmond so I merely reminded them that he was not the only one who switched parties. But there must have been more segregationists in this state than I know about because he managed to get reelected about 5 danged times.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    Every new immigrant group was treated like crap. And it's still happening. Another shameful part of our history. Not nearly like slavery which was many orders of magnitude worse.
    Slavery was no picnic but only a minority of the South owned slaves anyway. Its wasn't as rampant as the majority of history books make you think
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Slavery was no picnic but only a minority of the South owned slaves anyway. Its wasn't as rampant as the majority of history books make you think
    Wow.

    The subject was not the percentage of owners, but the level of discrimination different population groups in the US faced.

    This is a whopper of a non-sequitur.
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