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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    If that's true then the Irish in the northeast should have risen up also, because from what I have heard they were treated like absolute complete ****.
    IF..... should have ...... WOW!!!!!! That is how you attempt to refute the historical record? Speculation and shoulda woulda coulda! Amazing! Simply amazing!!!
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    The fact of your naivete is no surprise whatsoever. I particularly liked the bit where you thought a black restaurant owner being outwardly polite to your granddaddy was a true expression of his feelings. If blacks in the South learned nothing else during Jim Crow it was always to appear polite when in the presence of white "folk." A black person could pay for his life for even allowing a hint of animosity show itself.
    The man did not own the cafeteria he just worked there. But like I said this was later in my granddaddy's life. I imagine in childhood he had the same ideas as everyone else of his day.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    There is that unlikelihood. But the fact that horsegirl doesn't even entertain the idea that it couldn't have been otherwise speaks volumes.
    I speak about possibilities and you and HG can debate yourselves. I just found your comment that witness testimony was referred to as "folklore" funny, but not in a productive way. That's all.

    EDIT: There you go, she does entertain it in the post above.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Complete evasion mode? Please. Glad you at least see that the Irish were treated like crap though.
    My "people" were Irish (and German) catholics so I learned pretty earlier how it went for the first ones to come over. IOW, people your granddaddy would likely have spit on.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    IF..... should have ...... WOW!!!!!! That is how you attempt to refute the historical record? Speculation and shoulda woulda coulda! Amazing! Simply amazing!!!
    I guess you don't understand that hindsight is 20/20.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    My "people" were Irish (and German) catholics so I learned pretty earlier how it went for the first ones to come over. IOW, people your granddaddy would likely have spit on.
    Don't know about the spit on part, but I do know that when President Kennedy was murdered the Carib Theater in Miami Beach was the only place in town that was open.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Blacks and whites are all sorts of friendly to each other in the South... just not always. Her grandaddy's interactions with that man may very well have been sincere.
    From where I was sitting they seemed to be. I was especially flattered that he remembered me after a few years of not visiting Richmond regularly because my granddaddy moved in with us after my grandma passed.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I speak about possibilities and you and HG can debate yourselves. I just found your comment that witness testimony was referred to as "folklore" funny, but not in a productive way. That's all.
    I didn't refer to eyewitness testimony as foklore. Now you must be the confused one. I'd say eyewitness testimony is what we know it is: all in the eyes of the beholder. It's well known that it's one of the least reliable sources of evidence in criminal trials. There are several hundred now free men in this country (see "Innocence Project") who were convicted of violent crimes on eyewitness testimony who later were cleared by DNA evidence showing that someone else had to have committed that crime.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Well yeah, that is when it was invented but that knowledge and technology had to be transferred around the world, learned, implemented and used. The tribes of New Guinea still use rock tools to harvest their koru (sp?) tree diet and they have no writing at all. 100% illiterate. This is today.
    That's interesting. I guess to them it really doesn't matter.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    I didn't refer to eyewitness testimony as foklore. Now you must be the confused one. I'd say eyewitness testimony is what we know it is: all in the eyes of the beholder. It's well known that it's one of the least reliable sources of evidence in criminal trials. There are several hundred now free men in this country (see "Innocence Project") who were convicted of violent crimes on eyewitness testimony who later were cleared by DNA evidence showing that someone else had to have committed that crime.
    Oh. My bad. I jumped to conclusions. Sorry... I do that but it is also part of my charm. Being a moron.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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