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Confederate Flag[W:1518,2230, 2241]

Should the Confederate Flag be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 30.2%

  • No

    Votes: 127 69.8%
  • Total voters
    182
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HorseLoverGirl said:
If there is any justice in this world that piece of pond scum (not fit to be called human, much less a "man") is burning in the innermost circle of hell for eternity
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that man, more than any other, broke the will, broke the spirit, of the south...he brought the war straight to the south, no mercy......
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
Exactly. Only scum attack women and children for no good reason.
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it could be argued he had reason...to end the war, to bring the south to it's knees.
 
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randel said:
got it's ass handed to it? if i might humbly suggest, you bone up on your history
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Yep, last I looked it was North 1; South 0.
 
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randel said:
in the end , the south lost, they were not 'whooped' as you put it...if they would have been 'whooped', the war would have been over in less than a year...it took 4...sorry, that is not a 'whoopin' by any stretch of the imagination.
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WW2 took 5 years. Did the Japanese and Nazis get whooped or not?
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
Yet I have told nothing but truth, even gave a link. You who reject truth are only working to your detriment, not mine.
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Are you familiar with this saying?

If you speak the truth, have a foot in the stirrup.
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I gave you an oppertunity to show us what you knew about the civil war when I asked who were general Thomas and admiral Farragut.
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
Again proving my point, that only SCUM do what it did
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Like this proud southerner?

Silas Gordon’s pro-slavery, anti-Union activities resulted in the Union burning down every town and farm in Platte County, Missouri twice. He appears to have been consumed by an intemperate fury against the North, and more than once killed people on mere suspicion, without any evidence of wrongdoing. He was probably responsible for the Platte Bridge Tragedy, in which a rail trestle was burned through, collapsing under the weight of a passenger train, killing at least 17 men, women, and children.

How about this "scum."

Ferguson was a Confederate guerrilla possessed of the same raging hatred of the Union as Silas Gordon, and led various posses of armed Confederate sympathizers, and sometimes soldiers, in ambushes and murderous raids throughout middle and eastern Tennessee. He is notorious for acting with marked cruelty and targeting anyone, even women and children, whom he felt crossed him or supported the North.He is said to have cut the heads off 80-year-old men and rolled them down hills into towns. He was arrested within 3 months of returning home to Nashville after hearing news of Lincoln’s assassination, and was tried and hanged on 20 October 1865 for 53 counts of murder.

Yea not like war atrocities were committed on both sides. :roll:
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
The southern cause died at pickets charge and Vicksburg.
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just got back from vacation a week ago, went to gettysburg....picket was leading his men into a slaughter.
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
SO in other words you laugh at truth. How sad that the history of the South has been ridiculed so badly, and you prove that so well.
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No, I'm laughing at your silly posts, which have nothing to do with the truth.
 
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Kobie said:
Again, third-hand accounts are not "straight from the horse's mouth."

This is pointless.
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It is. It's like a merry-go-round that never stops, and instead of bright, happy calliope music, you hear over, and over, "But Granddaddy said...."

:roll:
 
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digitusmedius said:
Wow, did I ever hit a nerve. First, how could I understand what you said since all I ever saw was a year and no reference to any earlier comment and your refusal to even aim me at the comment that apparently contains that information? You seem pretty sensitive all of a sudden. Have you tried meditation?
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Yeah... a nerve of laughter. You should try it... laughing at others folly. :lol:

First? Right... how could you understand what I said since all you ever saw was a year and no reference to any earlier comment. Then why make an argument against what you admit that you did not understand? Further, why, when told you are wrong do you compound your error by claiming my point was pointless, since all you ever saw was a year and no reference to any earlier comment and you clearly and admittedly did not understand my point?

Question is... will you admit your error or continue with this folly? Who knows?

I'll meditate. You take a class on effective communication and debate 101. Fair compromise?
 
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Paperview said:
You ever encounter someone so hardnosed about their dedication to perpetuating a myth they refuse to even acknowledge words in their Founding Document?

I've spent some 7 years trying to get her to just admit the words "slave" and "slavery" is in the CSA Constitution.

You've witnessed it here. She won't.
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Have you posted the articles of the CSA Constitution that show those words?
 
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calamity said:
WW2 took 5 years. Did the Japanese and Nazis get whooped or not?
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we had an advantage that we had during the civil war..we were able to out manufacture the axis powers, the germans/axis powers were not able to bomb our cities/ factories into the ground, like we did the germans...the germans big mistake was engaging the russians....if hitler had left the russians alone, odds are europe would have been his .....britain would have fallen....hitler made the huge mistake of declaring war on the United States, after the United States declared war on japan....we were only going after japan in the beginning, did not have much interest in European affairs. hitler overextended Germany, that was their downfall. as for japan, that was fixin' to be a bitch of a fight until we finally got the bomb...if we didnt get a working atomic bomb when we did, we would have had to invade japan proper, and you would have seen death on a scale that would have dwarfed the civil war. thump you chest all you want, those were not 'whoopins', we ground them down.
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
"man" is being generous. I prefer pond scum.
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call him what you will, that man brought the fight to the south in a way it had never prepared for or expected.
 
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Black Dog said:
Like this proud southerner?

Silas Gordon’s pro-slavery, anti-Union activities resulted in the Union burning down every town and farm in Platte County, Missouri twice. He appears to have been consumed by an intemperate fury against the North, and more than once killed people on mere suspicion, without any evidence of wrongdoing. He was probably responsible for the Platte Bridge Tragedy, in which a rail trestle was burned through, collapsing under the weight of a passenger train, killing at least 17 men, women, and children.

How about this "scum."

Ferguson was a Confederate guerrilla possessed of the same raging hatred of the Union as Silas Gordon, and led various posses of armed Confederate sympathizers, and sometimes soldiers, in ambushes and murderous raids throughout middle and eastern Tennessee. He is notorious for acting with marked cruelty and targeting anyone, even women and children, whom he felt crossed him or supported the North.He is said to have cut the heads off 80-year-old men and rolled them down hills into towns. He was arrested within 3 months of returning home to Nashville after hearing news of Lincoln’s assassination, and was tried and hanged on 20 October 1865 for 53 counts of murder.

Yea not like war atrocities were committed on both sides. :roll:
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Tried and hanged........... He was a "lone wolf" domestic terrorist.

Far cry different than a "Well Respected" General who burned half the south to the ground with approval from the sitting President of the U.S.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
No, in 1861 there was not racial equality before the law. This is another typical example of where you cannot understand VERY simple points. It doesn't matter how much I reduce the points down, there is some fault that stops you from reading the words I post and process them. The point made by Caine was that the idea, the concept of equality of the races did not exist in 1861. I pointed out that is completely false. He then tried to argue that the concept was not widespread, which again is false. He then tried to argue that the concept was not widely accepted, finally massaging his comment into a truth, but that took multiple attempts to reach. I wonder how many posts of hand holding and repeating previously made points it will take to get you to a position of clearly understanding the concepts and the chronology of this exchange between Caine and I that you decided to jump into without understanding, without reviewing carefully to where you ask if I was claiming that racial equality before the law existed in 1861.
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:roll: Have a hissy fit if you like but I clearly asked a simple question so that I could understand the argument at hand and I clearly stated that I was jumping in and that should have been a very obvious sign that I was open to whatever you were talking about.

Thank you for answering, although in a very asshole fashion.

Guess what too? I agree with your argument in this case....

Guess what that indicates of the difference between our character too? :lol:
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
If you're still refusing to acknowledge information straight from the horse's mouth, then its not my problem. As you have shown earlier you refuse to acknowledge anything that refutes your "slavery was the only cause" mantra.
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What he did was to clearly outline how witness evidence is looked at and what he said is how the courts and police look at witness evidence, the majority of times which is incorrect.

They have done scientific studies as to the unreliability of witness evidence and how it gets worse and worse as more time goes by...
 
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Bodhisattva said:
What he did was to clearly outline how witness evidence is looked at and what he said is how the courts and police look at witness evidence, the majority of times which is incorrect.

They have done scientific studies as to the unreliability of witness evidence and how it gets worse and worse as more time goes by...
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Still I am more likely to believe someone who was there.
 
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