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Confederate Flag[W:1518,2230, 2241]

Should the Confederate Flag be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 30.2%

  • No

    Votes: 127 69.8%
  • Total voters
    182
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Ancient Herald said:
i say yes.

The Confederacy is an enemy of the United States and anyone who flies it should be considered a traitor and rendered ext6inct.
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:lol: Woah! A traitor to be killed? I think you might better associate with the Nazi's than a citizen of the United States...
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Bodhisattva said:
It is actually a stupid illogical conclusion...
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Um what are you talking about I was pointing out that the north never had the moral high ground in the war......" Let me guess, you never read things like Lincoln's views on the equal but separate clause in the constitution.
 
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Re: Confederate Flag

stonewall50 said:
So. Why was stopping slavery a cause the north wanted to go to war over? Hm?
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Ancient Herald said:
The North did not start the war, that is a revisionist lie.
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stonewall never said that the South started it... he CLEARLY asked why the North wanted to go to war over slavery. Read for comprehension please...
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Ryriena said:
Um what are you talking about I was pointing out that the north never had the moral high ground in the war......"
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Her point was the stupid one...
 
Re: Confederate Flag

digitusmedius said:
Uh-huh. I hope you realize this is as good as an admission that you didn't know what your were talking about....but, of course, you realize that. Otherwise you wouldn't be trying to escape.
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:lol: Trying to escape from a guy that misunderstood what I said, then when this is pointed out refuses to back up his argument with any quotes or facts and then turns around and tries to excuse his utter failure and loss by blaming me for not researching information FOR YOU?

What a ****ing crock of **** dude... take a hike. :lol:
 
Paperview said:
Also, the remark about the Draft Riots in NY --

Does the poster know that over 2 million Union soldiers voluntarily went to war?

Overwhelming voluntary on the North's part. Only 2% were draftees.

But the use of substitutes (6% of the enlisted) by those who could afford it really ticked off quite a few.

That gave rise to a lot of the Draft Riots in NYC. "Rich man's war, - poor man's fight" was heard a lot.

Also, in the South, they enacted a 20 Slave Law. Own 20 slaves? No fight. No probs.
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It sorta feels like the country has been asleep for 150 years and are just now waking up to the fact that the South is still protecting slavery.
 
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Ryriena said:
Um what are you talking about I was pointing out that the north never had the moral high ground in the war......" Let me guess, you never read things like Lincoln's views on the equal but separate clause in the constitution.
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:lol: Why in the **** would you thank digitusme? for that post? That makes no sense AT ALL! :lol:
 
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Bodhisattva said:
You are making a claim that I don't think that black people are equal citizens? I am not sure how a person could come to such a completely stupid conclusion, but please, share your evidence and confirm your intellectual level for all to see. Thanks. :lol:
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Flying the confederate flag on state property gives the impression that this nation does not uphold the values that "all men are created equal." Seriously, how did you not see that coming...?

Bodhisattva said:
:lol: That is why the morally conscious Northerners IMMEDIATELY ended racial segregation, called for inter-racial marriage, allowed blacks to fight in the military, scorned the Negro-Leagues, etc.??

Of course they didn't... your argument FAILS.
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Not really... Social change doesn't happen overnight, that's not a valid reason to let yourself end up on the wrong side of history...

Bodhisattva said:
The climate of the Rockies and San Francisco aren't even remotely comparable. S.F has pretty average yearly temperatures and S.F. winters actually warmer than people realize and that is one reason why the wine regions of the area produce such great vintages.
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Oh, please tell me more about how i feel in the various climates of regions that i've personally lived in.

Or you could concede the point that how cold a place feels is subjective and, in this case, the pacific winds of San Francisco actually make it feel ridiculously cold. But that would require you to actually admit you're wrong, which, if this thread is any indication, you're completely incapable of doing in arguably commendable defiance of an overwhelming torrent of facts to the contrary.
 
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Re: Confederate Flag

Bodhisattva said:
What in the HELL? MOOT made the mistake... not you. Now I know why you thanked digitusme... your comprehension skills are utter crap.
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Um..." You quoted me when you said that.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Absentglare said:
Flying the confederate flag on state property gives the impression that this nation does not uphold the values that "all men are created equal." Seriously, how did you not see that coming...?
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I don't think that the flag should be flying on state ground... does that clear up your confusion finally?

Not really... Social change doesn't happen overnight, that's not a valid reason to let yourself end up on the wrong side of history...
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Justification for a failed counter argument...

Oh, please tell me more about how i feel in the various climates of regions that i've personally lived in.
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I have been to San Fran hundreds and hundreds of times over a decade as we lived just across the Golden Gate... That is why will tell you.

San Francisco Weather: Temperatures by Month

Nothing about San Fran winter weather is close to what the Rocky Mountains are like... Nothing.

Or you could concede the point that how cold a place feels is subjective and, in this case, the pacific winds of San Francisco actually make it feel ridiculously cold. But that would require you to actually admit you're wrong, which, if this thread is any indication, you're completely incapable of doing in arguably commendable defiance of an overwhelming torrent of facts to the contrary.
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Yes. The wind chill factor is what makes it feel colder and that is indeed subjective. I was going to add that initially but did not and that was my error and it is good that you pointed that out. It is still nothing like a winter in the Rockies and I am sure can admit that as well.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Ryriena said:
Um..." You quoted me when you said that.
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Oh my god... yes, to affirm that you were correct and so that YOU would see the message. Lord Almighty! :lol:

Are you new to social networking sites like this because it shouldn't be this complicated ESPECIALLY when I use the term "Her" instead of the term "You". Follow?
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Ryriena said:
Deleted the like was trying to like yours clicked the wrong button. Lmao
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:lol: Fair enough... all good.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Bodhisattva said:
Oh my god... yes, to affirm that you were correct and so that YOU would see the message. Lord Almighty! :lol:

Are you new to social networking sites like this because it shouldn't be this complicated ESPECIALLY when I use the term "Her" instead of the term "You". Follow?
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Lmao, I am somewhat new to here just was confused somewhat with the way it sounded in my head. Plus I have been up since 2:30 am so my brain is falling asleep.
 
Absentglare said:
Hey man this stuff is polarizing, people get upset.

I thought i tried to make it clear that i don't want to make some law banning the flag altogether. I hope that people find new ways to show their southern pride, using symbols that have not been used by hate groups. I don't think waving that flag around makes you a racist. I can accept that it doesn't mean that to a lot of people. But, well, i think people should individually come to be considerate, and shouldn't get all upset when they learn that there's more meaning attached to a symbol than what they've always believed.
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Good post.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Ryriena said:
Lmao, I am somewhat new to here just was confused somewhat with the way it sounded in my head.
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Voices in your head... you should really check on that. ;)
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Ryriena said:
Giggles snorts already have they still can't figure what wrong with me.
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Same here, they did studies on me and with years of therapy I still don't put the toilette seat down, much to my daughters chagrin...
 
Re: Confederate Flag

HorseLoverGirl said:
You are 1000% DEAD WRONG
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How did the North start the war? The first actual shots were fired on Fort Sumter by the South, or is that wrong?
 
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