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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Oh my god the James Kennedy book? This is all starting to make a lot more sense.
    It confirms a lot of things I learned from my granddaddy, who if he were alive today would be leading a major league protest against the backlash that has resulted from one nutcase.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    No, they wouldn't have laughed at me. It was widely understood that slavery was the underlying theme which tied the entirety of the animus between North and South together. Furthermore you are right it was about economics, the economics of slavery. It was about taxes and tariffs, taxes and tariffs which impacted the finances of a slave based agricultural export economy. It was about states rights, a states right to protect the institution of slavery. Absent slavery there would have been no conflict.
    It's a nice hypothetical opinion to say if there were no slavery there would have not been a conflict and you may be right, but if they were indentured Irish instead of African slaves, the conflict may still have occurred.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Confederate Flag

    I heard on the radio on my drive home yesterday that the gift store at the
    Antietam national battlefield, will stop selling confederate flag merchandise.
    I was thinking what the logical conclusion of all this would be?
    If we just deny all of the parts of our history that upsets people, we can all be happy!
    On the other hand if we do not teach history as it is, warts and all, we are likely to repeat
    some of the ugly stuff.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    I guess we're to understand your concept of "competence" was reached during the Bush/Cheney Catastrophe.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I heard on the radio on my drive home yesterday that the gift store at the
    Antietam national battlefield, will stop selling confederate flag merchandise.
    I was thinking what the logical conclusion of all this would be?
    If we just deny all of the parts of our history that upsets people, we can all be happy!
    On the other hand if we do not teach history as it is, warts and all, we are likely to repeat
    some of the ugly stuff.
    What you are seeing is an attempt to cleanse America ... white guilt don't you know.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Confederate Flag

    I heard Stone Mountain Georgia stopped selling Confederate items too, and some are calling for the removal of the flag. The flag was removed at Fort Sumter also, from what I heard this morning. How sad that history is being eliminated because one nutcase massacred 9 people for no good reason. The good news is the Sons of Confederate Veterans have stood up and said EXCUSE YOU???? to Virginia's idiot of a governor. Now the United Daughters of the Confederacy needs to back them up. Down here in North Carolina also, because our governor has his head up his ass too
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    If we just deny all of the parts of our history that upsets people, we can all be happy!
    That pretty much describes the entire flag proponents' position....denial of what all of the various representations of the flag. There are plenty of private establishments where images of the flag can be bought. No need to have the government at any level flying it or selling it or in any way be seen to promote it, even unintentionally.

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    How sad that history is being eliminated because one nutcase massacred 9 people for no good reason.
    The "nutcase" was a white supremacist and the reason was racism. No way are we going to let rightwingers dismiss this like they did with the Jared Loughner murders. History is not being eliminated because a symbol of slavery and treason is not being flown on government grounds. Get all of them you want and put them anywhere on your private property you like. Just don't expect government to prop up the ideas of white supremacy any more than it should be propping up religious beliefs.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Yes they are if you do actual research. Then again I can see how the revisionists have taken things out of context completely
    Where do you propose we do our research so that we reach your apologetic revisionist history regarding the Confederacy? Links, please.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Yeah its hopeless to convince those of us who know the truth that the revisionist version is true
    Which of the hated "revisionists" wrote the various statements of secession for the southern states in which slavery over and over and over again played so prominently in their reasons?
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