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Confederate Flag[W:1518,2230, 2241]

Should the Confederate Flag be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 30.2%
  • No

    Votes: 127 69.8%

  • Total voters
    182
Re: Confederate Flag

Yes because all those people have no other interest then revising your unsupported grandpappy stories to make southerners look bad. :roll:

That's OK though, I knew you had nothing.

Thanks for playing. :2wave:

So you're wrong, you're upset that you're wrong, so you dismiss refutations of myths spewed by yankee revisionists. How typical
 
Re: Confederate Flag

What am I looking at? This website looks like it was made in the early 90s. How far in the Google search results did you have to go to find this page?

Look at the bottom. It's the website for the "Southron and Confederate Information Center."

:lol:

So much for unbiased sources.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

So you're wrong, you're upset that you're wrong, so you dismiss refutations of myths spewed by yankee revisionists. How typical

You've only been here 19 days and you have 778 posts.

Dang. Better go check your horses. They might need food and water.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

So you're wrong, you're upset that you're wrong, so you dismiss refutations of myths spewed by yankee revisionists. How typical

You think I am upset? I am actually amused at the way you ignore the mountain of evidence put to you and base your own knowledge on nothing but anecdotal evidence and biased sources. Historians, scholars and educators all say you are wrong and yet you think I am upset? You are the one throwing a tantrum, not I. :lamo

Your lies about the cause of the war etc are all exposed by the light of truth. :)
 
Re: Confederate Flag

You've only been here 19 days and you have 778 posts.

Dang. Better go check your horses. They might need food and water.

Holy moly! 42 posts per day!! Most of them about the army of virginia battle flag I bet.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

So you're wrong, you're upset that you're wrong, so you dismiss refutations of myths spewed by yankee revisionists. How typical

Do you get $ for every time you use the phrase "Yankee revisionist"?

Seriously, your grandfather is not exactly a recognized scholar on the civil war, and that is all you have used so far to document your absurd claims.

If you have evidence of this Yankee revisionism, post the sources. But we know that we're not going to see it.....don't we dear?
 
Re: Confederate Flag

We, adult human beings, who are vaguely aware of history, can be more sensitive to not display symbols that are believably offensive to a reasonable person

When people go this route it is pretty obvious that they have lost the argument, and, in fact, cement the horror of Political Correctness as well.

Disagree with you? A child. Not even vaguely aware of history. Insensitive. Not a reasonable person and my favourite... Not a human being.

:lol:
 
Re: Confederate Flag

No, they are comparable in that both have a history other than what is attached to them now. Both have been tarnished. And history can be read selectively. ;)

I think you are agreeing with me as this is what I have been saying but you start off with "no" so I am not sure...
 
Yes because it's a symbol of racism. Every symbol of the confederacy and the south should be purged. The south lost the war, tough luck.

Wow. Big Brother much?
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Um, we aren't debating a constellation, we are debating a CBF, the symbol of one of the worst chapters in US history.Let me first point out that I said "one of the worst chapters, not the worst....try reading. Again, I'll try to explain this to you slowly even though I have done so before, .

Saying it slowly confuses me... and your misuse of quotes makes it unclear what you are trying to impart.

The US changed its policy towards American Indians, just as it did with slavery. The US was not founded upon the principle that men are unequal as the Confederacy was wholly, completely.

The United States was founded on an idea that all men are created equal but clearly did not practice that idea, as we can see even today with Same Sex Marriage just becoming legitimate. Forget about slavery, women denied the right to vote until 1919, Separate But Equal, Native Americans being slaughtered and forced onto Reservations, etc.

The US govt changed because the majority changed, the Confederacy did not....and there still remains a large portion of folks in the South who remain unreconstructed.

The US changed, yes, but we don't know if that would have happened in the South or not given time, although it well might not have.

I'll attribute your arguments lack of awareness of these facts to your being a non-US citizen

Yeah, I am an American. Grew up surfing in Huntington Beach, CA. Graduated from a California University in History too...
 
Re: Confederate Flag

No ****, Sherlock.

I am writing in English, although Bodhisattva is not an English word. I understand your confusion.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

My point was that bringing up Plessy was pointless.

Uhh, nope. Not pointless. It was a specific counter to a comment made by Athrawan (sp?)

The thanks you got for this should not make you feel better about your point either...
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Do you get $ for every time you use the phrase "Yankee revisionist"?

Seriously, your grandfather is not exactly a recognized scholar on the civil war, and that is all you have used so far to document your absurd claims.

If you have evidence of this Yankee revisionism, post the sources. But we know that we're not going to see it.....don't we dear?

I should ask if you get paid to reject the truth in favor of the yanks
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Not far, but you're looking at yankee revisionist myths refuted

If you mean I am looking at secondary and primary sources with complete references and documentation, then yes. The link you posted, however, seems to be from someone who is going on a rant without any actual sources. With that methodology, history might as well just be about whoever has the greatest imagination.
 
Memphis seeks to remove remains of Confederate general from park | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Um...yea they are actually.

And it is kind of stupid to pull dukes of hazard. Why? Mainly because it is stupid that people are still pissed off at this.

This discussion is not about digging up remains.

There might be other reasons to dig up remains.

This discussion is about flying the flag. Go start another thread if you want to discuss something off topic..

You said: "Nobody is proposing digging up people's graves and desecrating their remains. Calm down your hysterics." and not "This discussion is not about digging up remains." so actually Stone is 100% correct and you need to acknowledge his point, not attempt to blow it off.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

You think I am upset? I am actually amused at the way you ignore the mountain of evidence put to you and base your own knowledge on nothing but anecdotal evidence and biased sources. Historians, scholars and educators all say you are wrong and yet you think I am upset? You are the one throwing a tantrum, not I. :lamo

Your lies about the cause of the war etc are all exposed by the light of truth. :)

Yes your long believed lies have been refuted. However you refuse to accept that you were wrong all along and the South was indeed right
 
Re: Confederate Flag

If you mean I am looking at secondary and primary sources with complete references and documentation, then yes. The link you posted, however, seems to be from someone who is going on a rant without any actual sources. With that methodology, history just becomes whoever has the greatest imagination.

Yet you dismiss anything that shows the yankees to be wrong.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

My horse is just fine, she is well taken care of. Your education however, seriously lacked truth.

:lol: Well maybe I can find a nursing home full of old people to help me out. Apparently that's the way to go. At least by your reasoning.
 
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