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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Nobody knows how the removal of the flag will pan out or effect race relations. But I think it's removal off government property might help show more respect for the country and a good start to putting the tainted past behind.
    Removing the flag from public grounds won't have the slightest effect whatsoever regarding race relations. Especially if individuals are still allowed to display it. In fact, it could have the unintended consequence of emboldening individuals.

    It will remove the implied endorsement and shut people up... at least for that aspect.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Removing the flag from public grounds won't have the slightest effect whatsoever regarding race relations. Especially if individuals are still allowed to display it. In fact, it could have the unintended consequence of emboldening individuals.

    It will remove the implied endorsement and shut people up... at least for that aspect.
    If individuals are allowed to display it?

    You aren't... suggesting that we limit 1st amendment rights... are you?

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    If individuals are allowed to display it?

    You aren't... suggesting that we limit 1st amendment rights... are you?
    Don't get your panties in a wad. I am suggesting no such thing. In fact, I would strenuously oppose any such restriction. Maybe I could have phrased it better, but it's just semantics.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    The new history:

    The Civil War. 1861 - 1865.

    Because the yankees thought that some people might not agree with the decisions of the new president, they decided to stroll out to fields throughout the country and fall over dead. No actual fighting occurred as no enemy existed, this was merely a needed sacrifice by the yankees to better the lives of all Americans.

    (or something like that...)
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    The new history:

    The Civil War. 1861 - 1865.

    Because the yankees thought that some people might not agree with the decisions of the new president, they decided to stroll out to fields throughout the country and fall over dead. No actual fighting occurred as no enemy existed, this was merely a needed sacrifice by the yankees to better the lives of all Americans.

    (or something like that...)
    That is pretty much what Apple is saying by removing any imagery of the Confederacy from Civil War themed games in Apps in their store.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    That is pretty much what Apple is saying by removing any imagery of the Confederacy from Civil War themed games in Apps in their store.
    I have to say it. That is just so stupid. I am an avid wargamer in miniatures and PC. The removal of historical markings or even flags in games or even reenactments so to speak is just a huge and ignorant over reaction.
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    imo imprisonment for the flag burning offense is necessary. also, mandatory sentences for those that watch and do nothing to stop it.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    And what is it about 200 year old slavery that ramps your blood so bad?
    1- it was a betrayal of the very principles stated in the Declaration of Independence
    2- it was wrong for one person to own another as property
    3- the nation has never recovered from the lasting effects of slavery on a race of people
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    this is an error of mine, because i was not talking about the southern states as you were, but was talking about our nations's beginning and its foundation.


    The USA was founded by some old White men who fought for their rights and freedom, but not for the rights and freedom of the Black slaves and women under their control.

    We're still fighting for some people's rights and freedom in the USA.

    Some day, maybe we'll all be free. But I don't see that happening tomorrow. Too many people are opposed to it.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    I dont at all think that the CSA equates the framers views.
    Really, why not?

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    And again I ask..

    How. What exactly is the removal of a symbol flag.... one of which I thought that they had removed years ago..... what is that going to do for race relations.

    How is this going to improve them.... specifically.
    Because the people who feel oppressed will have one less thing to point to when they talk about systemic oppression.
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