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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Then you should have no problem finding one more source to support that one.

    Here, let me help get you started....


    What was the first country to recognize the United States?

    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...+united+states
    What counts is FORMAL RECOGNITION:

    The first U.S. treaty to be signed was a Treaty of Amity and Commerce with France that was signed in Paris on February 6, 1778.

    https://history.state.gov/countries/france

    Formal U.S. relations with Morocco date from 1787 when the United States Congress ratified a Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the two nations

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocc...ates_relations

    Just admit you are wrong already...
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Abolished, no. Removed from State sponsorship, yes.
    This is the best answer yet.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    What counts is FORMAL RECOGNITION:

    The first U.S. treaty to be signed was a Treaty of Amity and Commerce with France that was signed in Paris on February 6, 1778.

    https://history.state.gov/countries/france

    Formal U.S. relations with Morocco date from 1787 when the United States Congress ratified a Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the two nations

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocc...ates_relations

    Just admit you are wrong already...
    I knew you wouldn't find one.


    From your wiki link....it's the sentence that you deliberately left out.....


    "...Morocco became the first country to formally recognize the United States as an independent nation.[1]..."


    Just admit you're intellectually dishonest....

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Sorry, but none of what you're posting has anything to do with what I said or the link I posted. Do you want to try again?

    Hint: it's the reason the southern states seceded from the union.
    Oh yes it does have everything to do with what led up to the civil war. And it has everything to do with a century of segregationist Democrats that followed.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Oh yes it does have everything to do with what led up to the civil war. And it has everything to do with a century of segregationist Democrats that followed.
    So what did the link say was the reason for seccession?

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I knew you wouldn't find one.


    From your wiki link....it's the sentence that you deliberately left out.....


    "...Morocco became the first country to formally recognize the United States as an independent nation.[1]..."


    Just admit you're intellectually dishonest....
    That one sentence does not negate the facts or dates. The dates are the dates lady... and you call me intellectually dishonest?
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That one sentence does not negate the facts or dates. The dates are the dates lady... and you call me intellectually dishonest?

    Yup, that's what you are alright. You can keep proving it if you like, but I'm already convinced.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yup, that's what you are alright. You can keep proving it if you like, but I'm already convinced.
    I will just deal with you elsewhere...
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    So what did the link say was the reason for seccession?
    Your dang link was nothing more than a summary of every state in the Confederacy that issued an “Article of Secession” declaring their break from the Union explaining their decision.. Two major themes emerge the right to keep the institution of slavery and states' rights. Several states strongly defend slavery while making varying claims related to states' rights. Other grievances pertained to economics. It was a mixed bag of reasons but the fight to keep slavery alive tends to be the main factor. And leading up to the Civil War, the support for slavery was dwindling. Within those states that wanted to keep slavery there were folks living there who opposed it. All you have to look at is a map of the routes of the Underground Railroad that reach far into the Southern Confederate states to prove that one.


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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Your dang link was nothing more than a summary of every state in the Confederacy that issued an “Article of Secession” declaring their break from the Union explaining their decision.. Two major themes emerge the right to keep the institution of slavery and states' rights. Several states strongly defend slavery while making varying claims related to states' rights. Other grievances pertained to economics. It was a mixed bag of reasons but the fight to keep slavery alive tends to be the main factor. And leading up to the Civil War, the support for slavery was dwindling. Within those states that wanted to keep slavery there were folks living there who opposed it. All you have to look at is a map of the routes of the Underground Railroad that reach far into the Southern Confederate states to prove that one.

    She doesn't understand the chronology of dates... how do you expect her to deal with more nuanced concepts?
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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