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    Re: Confederate Flag

    I don't think any government should be flying it. The US flag stands for a lot of things. You can say it stood for slavery, but you can also say it stands for abolition since we fought under it to free the slaves. The Confederate flag stands for secession, mainly because of slavery. Imo, it's disrespectful.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    flags don't fight wars.... people do.
    you know what I mean.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    What do you mean by abolished?

    People can still put in their trucks and fly on their personal property for all I care, that's their constitutional right.

    But, no government building (or one partly funded by the government) at any level should have that rebel flag flying.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    And full cheaters= Losers. Anyways if the states wants to fly the flag let them.
    All is fair in love and war...and, apparently baseball.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    The American flag represents freedom. It may have been a symbol of America during an unfortunate period in our history but that is not what it represents today. The confederate flag has always representes slavery. That has never changed.
    Let's face reality, shall we? The American flag waved over slavery much, much longer than the Confederate flag.

    It also waved over and represented the US during these horrific acts:

    Stealing land from Mexico; Indian Removal Act; Tuskegee syphilis experiment; Project MKULTRA, Subproject 68; Mustard Gas Tested on Soldiers via Involuntary Gas Chambers; Deadly Chemical Sprays on American Cities; US Infects Guatemalans With STDs; Human Experiments to Test the Effects of The Atomic Bomb; Injecting Prisoners with Agent Orange; Infecting Puerto Rico With Cancer; Pentagon Treats Black Cancer Patients with Extreme Radiation; Operation Midnight Climax involved safe houses in New York and San Francisco, built for the sole purpose to study LSD effects on non-consenting individuals; Fallout Radiation on Unsuspecting Pacific Territories

    There are plenty more examples that expose the US government for horrific acts committed on mankind over the years. So please spare me the freedom about the American flag.

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

    Still waving the American flag proudly?

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    The US flag represents the country, while the Confederate flag denotes a specific faction that was willing to die for the right to own their fellow human beings. It should be removed from public property and heavily stigmatized.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    This.



    Yes, but it's OUR symbol of racism and segregation.
    and the States have their flags too....some of which have the battle flag as part of it.<shrug>


    when all is said and done.. .it's a flag.
    it doesn't cause racism.. it doesn't cause murder... it doesn't cause slavery.. it doesn't cause segregation.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    Sure, what if? Yet, for the north it was built-in to the DNA of our republic. If you can show me anywhere in the founding documents of the confederacy, any intention or desire to make all men free and equal, I will gladly stand corrected.
    From the Declaration of Independence:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
    By all men did they mean just white men? What about native Americans and black Americans?

    How equal were they? Did they have different certain unalienable rights than white men? Because that's how they were treated.

    Since this flag issue is here, let's talk about the flags issue, not a flag issue.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    and the States have their flags too....some of which have the battle flag as part of it.<shrug>


    when all is said and done.. .it's a flag.
    it doesn't cause racism.. it doesn't cause murder... it doesn't cause slavery.. it doesn't cause segregation.
    No, it's just a constant reminder of racism, murder, slavery, segregation, beatings, whipping, lynchings, ripping families apart, from the POV of those with generations of being the subjugated.

    Are you capable of seeing things from others perspectives? Do you think the pain of your loss of having the flag removed yet still sold on gazillions of schwag will be greater than a daily reminder of all of the above?
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    No it's just a flag. That said no non-US flags should be flying on state or federal grounds.

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