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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    My inlaws - a HUGE extended family - live in the deep South. They are very hurt by these accusations of racism. It's very personal to them. My sister in law runs a volunteer organization called "Helping Hands" that collects and distributes items to the very poor. Most of the recipients are black and my sister in law feels honored to be of service. She's also a member of the Daughters of the Confederacy and she's very proud of her fallen ancestors.

    You have your opinion, but that's all it is - YOUR opinion. Don't try to speak for others - because they might not agree with you.
    So you are speaking for the entire south, but telling me not to speak for others, simply because you have a handful of inlaws who live here?

    That's rich.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Rather than reply to this right now I feel like you should read up on the civil war and specifically causes of the civil war, why it started and how it started. Events leading up to the war ect. Once you have done that please let me know and then we can have this discussion.
    Which biased article should I read?

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Fruityfact View Post
    The flag, or rather flags your great great grand father fought under weren't even the same flags. The current battle flag was adopted in the civil rights era... as an opposition to civil rights. So no, it doesn't stand for this heritage and that blah, it simply doesn't.
    The flag that has so many upset is actually the Northern Va. battle flag.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    The flag that has so many upset is actually the Northern Va. battle flag.


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    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    I've never heard that story before, but what's your point? Do you think they were going to try to start slavery back up? Do you really think that could have happened?
    Incredible. Simply freaking incredible. He seems to think that it was of no importance whatsoever that Mississippi didn't finalize ratification of the 13th Amendment until 2013...or, apparently, that they ratified it at all.

    And yet conservatives and Republicans wonder why they lost the African-American vote....
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    That's a rather absurd comment. You can't tell me that you would be so profoundly insensitive as to walk around in just about any state in the US with a swastika Tshirt on or waiving a flag with a swastika from your big ass truck. No, you wouldn't. Neither would you walk down any American street and starting flipping people your middle finger.
    I see that you couldn't even be bothered to learn a little form my link... so, lets see if you can learn or not.

    In South Asia, the swastika is omnipresent as a symbol of wealth and good fortune. In India and Nepal, electoral ballot papers are stamped with a round swastika-like pattern (to ensure that the accidental ink imprint on the other side of a folded ballot paper can be correctly identified as such). Many businesses and other organisations, such as the Ahmedabad Stock Exchange and the Nepal Chamber of Commerce, use the swastika in their logos. The red swastika was suggested as an emblem of International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement in India and Sri Lanka, but the idea was not implemented. Swastikas are fairly ubiquitous in Indian and Nepalese cities, located on buses, buildings, auto-rickshaws, and clothing. The swastika continues to be prominently used in Hindu religious ceremonies and temples, and is recognised as a Hindu religious symbol, sometimes used to evoke the Shakti in tantric rituals

    and that is just South Asia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swasti...ry_use_in_Asia
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Just because that flag has been part of a particular state's flag for generations doesn't automatically make it right or proper. Y'all gotta be careful of trying to use that "that's the way it's always been" line for justification.
    I am not using that "justification" as I have made no claims about the CF being used or abandoned either way...

    That said, answer clearly whether Southern State Flags from the seceeding nations should have their flags removed from government buildings as well, or not. They are every bit as racist as the CF is.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Which biased article should I read?
    Any history textbook or educational website about the civil war would do.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Any history textbook or educational website about the civil war would do.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Incredible. Simply freaking incredible. He seems to think that it was of no importance whatsoever that Mississippi didn't finalize ratification of the 13th Amendment until 2013...or, apparently, that they ratified it at all.

    And yet conservatives and Republicans wonder why they lost the African-American vote....
    It does seem a bit on the lax side, but have you known government to ever be very effective?

    I'm not sure the GOP "lost" the African American vote - anymore than I think the Democrat Party "earned" it.
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