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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Look, most of us didn't fall off the turnip truck. We know exactly what 'States' Rights' means.
    Really?

    And, what is it you think they mean, pray tell?
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    And why would that happen? Do you find my post to be historically wrong...or offensive? If so, how?
    I'm a patriot, and I stand when the flag passes by with my hand on my heart. You should do likewise.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    So - you're into radicalizing extremists?

    Good to know.
    If they're skinheads (in the commonly accepted usage) -- they are already radical White Supremacists. Placing the American swastika on their clothing just helps to more easily identify them.

    You got a problem with that?

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    Really?

    And, what is it you think they mean, pray tell?
    Here, let Nixon's GOP strategist help to explain it a little:

    "You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires.

    So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”

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    ETA: I would have thought that word was a filtered word here. If it's not allowed, someone please let me know...

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    If they're skinheads (in the commonly accepted usage) -- they are already radical White Supremacists. Placing the American swastika on their clothing just helps to more easily identify them.

    You got a problem with that?
    I have a problem with people trying to start a race war - yes.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    The American flag represents freedom. It may have been a symbol of America during an unfortunate period in our history but that is not what it represents today. The confederate flag has always representes slavery. That has never changed.
    You have no clue what the Confederate flag stands for, and it doesn't have anything to do with slavery. What it does have to do, though is the original concept of 13 free states having their own rights to do and make laws as they see fit as was the original design of the US Constitution, but it was northern aggression and oppression that made the southern states secede from the union. Take a look at that battle flag and you will see an X with 13 stars in it and an all red, white, and blue flag. My great great grand father died fighting for the Confederacy. He never had slaves his entire life, but he was fighting for his home and freedom from tyranny. He definitely wasn't fighting for slavery.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    At least that flag wins wars. The other one got it's ass handed to it in the only war ever fought for it.
    It hasn't won too many wars after World War II, though. It's not fashionable to win wars anymore.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    I have a problem with people trying to start a race war - yes.
    Then you should have a problem with the State sanctioned use of the American Swastika bestowing legitimacy to a flag that was flown in the name of perpetuating White Supremacy.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Here, let Nixon's GOP strategist help to explain it a little:

    "You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires.

    So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”

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    ETA: I would have thought that word was a filtered word here. If it's not allowed, someone please let me know...
    Yeah, I was a little surprised to find that word....

    While that was Atwater's opinion, and perhaps he even thought it was a strategy, he certainly does not represent the mass of citizens who understand that States' Rights is a system of checks and balances that keep our federal government from becoming overbearing.

    Anyone who remembers their history lessons of how Britain treated the colonists will recall that our Founders wanted to keep that from happening again.

    Atwater was an ass and a racist.

    His personal opinion, however, is no more than just that - an opinion. And, you know what they say about opinions and assholes don't you?
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    You have no clue what the Confederate flag stands for, and it doesn't have anything to do with slavery. What it does have to do, though is the original concept of 13 free states having their own rights to do and make laws as they see fit as was the original design of the US Constitution, but it was northern aggression and oppression that made the southern states secede from the union. Take a look at that battle flag and you will see an X with 13 stars in it and an all red, white, and blue flag. My great great grand father died fighting for the Confederacy. He never had slaves his entire life, but he was fighting for his home and freedom from tyranny. He definitely wasn't fighting for slavery.

    Those stars represent the claimed, traitorous Confederate States of America, not the 13 original States.

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