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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Any state that chooses to can display the Stars and Bars just as long as it damned well pleases. What authority do you imagine you have, or anyone else not resident in a state has, to tell that state it cannot fly that flag? I know it's a constant source of vexation for statists, but we have a federal government in this country--not a national one.
    Sure - let that state do so...and as the rest of the nation slowly comes to realize that the "stars and bars" should be seen in the same light as the Nazi flag, there will be fewer and fewer corporations that want to be based there. More and more people will see it as a symbol of shame for that state, and fewer educated people will want to live there. But then, looking at the map below, the state's-rights crowd has never cared much for education or financial independence for their people:

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Now, about the Confederate Flag...abolished, no. In a museum, yes, or flow only over Confederate War Memorial sites. It should never be flown above state capital buildings or other such facilities. That's why each (southern) state has its own state flag. If you wish to wave it to show your southern pride, do so WITH the understanding that some people - both Black and White - may look at you sideways and project a deserved pre-conceived notion towards you.
    Seems like you've got it all worked out how other people should live--"should" this, and "should" that. Any state is free to fly the Stars and Bars over its capitol building, or any other damned place it sees fit. And if the un-American liar currently disgracing the White House doesn't like that, he can stuff it right up his jack. If I lived in one of the former Confederate states, I would not give a moment's thought to how anyone looked at me for displaying that flag, or what notion of me they had because of it. They could take their looks and notions and go straight to Hell.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, but they were the only ones willing to destroy the country to preserve that right. And your simplistic summation of the causes of the Civil War is ludicrous.
    You guys cant have it both ways:

    First arguments are presented that contend that the south's desire to maintain slavery was the only cause of the civil war. The fact is that the north had no intention of banning slavery and readily accepted loyal citiznes who owned slaves.

    Then you contend that this description is too "simplified". Which is it?

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Sure - let that state do so...and as the rest of the nation slowly comes to realize that the "stars and bars" should be seen in the same light as the Nazi flag, there will be fewer and fewer corporations that want to be based there. More and more people will see it as a symbol of shame for that state, and fewer educated people will want to live there. But then, looking at the map below, the state's-rights crowd has never cared much for education or financial independence for their people:
    By "the state's-rights crowd," I assume you mean true Americans who respect the federalist system designed into our Constitution, and expressed in the Tenth Amendment. The Framers viewed the concentration of power in a national government as an invitation to tyranny and a threat to individual liberties, just as I do, and they carefully structured the Constitution to prevent it. That structure thwarts the centralized control statists so dearly want, and it is an important reason why they, with their taste for totalitarian government, loathe the Constitution and most things American.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Just like the Swastika, eh? Cool?
    yes.. exactly.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, whatever.
    You don't like sarcasm?
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    A culture of whips, chains and raping African women. Gee lets waive a flag and celebrate.
    The American Flag represents all of that too, as does the Union Jack of England, the Aussie flag and Southern State Flags... so?
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It's an odd sense of patriotism when someone waives a flag representing a failed rebellion.
    So had the colonies lost waving the American Flag would be wrong too? That's interesting...
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You don't like sarcasm?
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    How about murdering innocent Black people in a church?

    Do you think that anyone should be proud of that?

    Fill us in.

    Are Southerners proud of that because from what I have seen the grief and love being displayed by Southerners is ASTOUNDING.

    Some people on this planet see racism for what it is.

    Others will ignore it until the end of time.

    But the racist Confederate flags that some states display will come down.

    Wait and see.
    It might but we will have to wait and see... declaring it done before it happens is silly though.

    No one can stop time and/or change.

    The clock is ticking.
    How do you know? Maybe time stops all the time and we just don't know it happens.

    What power does a dead man have over anything?

    Fill us in.

    He died a few years ago, so what? Show some respect.

    That said, what ridiculous logic shrub, unlike you from what I remember... dead people have all sorts of power from martyrs to teachers to lessons, etc. Gandhi, Hitler, Jesus.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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