View Poll Results: Should the Confederate Flag be abolished?

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    So you racist? You identified you were racist? And then you decided to take penance by a job of great servitude to your country? ...

    Man they did a number on you.
    I was raised as a racist - though we never called ourselves such - and it was only during my Navy career that I learned how wrong it was, and it was then that I began to unlearn the racism I'd been taught by my family.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I was raised as a racist - though we never called ourselves such - and it was only during my Navy career that I learned how wrong it was, and it was then that I began to unlearn the racism I'd been taught by my family.
    Yes the Navy can really indoctrinate you.

    They say you rebel when you hit adolescence but then return to your roots at 40 so maybe you'll end up racist again?

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Bingoooooo!

    Many of those are true. lol.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    Yes the Navy can really indoctrinate you.

    They say you rebel when you hit adolescence but then return to your roots at 40 so maybe you'll end up racist again?
    You really should learn to be careful about what "they say". I'm in my fifties now.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Fort Sumter was ours! We had already seceded and taken our property with us.
    Sorry, but that isn't true. What you can say however was that Lincoln was too hardheaded over the issue and instead of listening to his advisers and ordering the men back north he decided to play hardball and fail to recognize that the best course of action at the time was to remove all soldiers from the land. Doing otherwise in that situation was likely to make the enemy feel threatened by the US miltary presence in their territory and increase the chances of war.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sorry, but that isn't true. What you can say however was that Lincoln was too hardheaded over the issue and instead of listening to his advisers and ordering the men back north he decided to play hardball and fail to recognize that the best course of action at the time was to remove all soldiers from the land. Doing otherwise in that situation was likely to make the enemy feel threatened by the US miltary presence in their territory and increase the chances of war.
    We know Lincoln was hardheaded.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    South Carolina had ceded all rights to Fort Sumter in 1836. All rights. It was Federal Property. Belonging to ALL of the US.

    You don't get to just steal Federal property and call it your own.

    The South commenced hostilities, fired cannons on Union ships, seized Federal buildings, Forts, arsenals, Custom's Houses all across the South, and committed Acts of War --

    *months* before Lincoln ever stepped into office.
    Yep we were leaving and that was that.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    You really don't get it, do you? By the time the Civil War started, ALL the developed nations of the world - including all the great nations of Europe - had banned our abolished slavery in their home nations (though not quite in all their colonies yet). It was becoming seen as more and more disgusting and shameful throughout the developed world...and America was changing, too. The South just didn't want to change along with the rest of the world.
    The slave trade was a triangle pretty much. Ship the slaves from Africa to the Caribbean, trade them for rum, then bring others up North to sell to the South. Repeat process.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    We know Lincoln was hardheaded.
    Honestly, he either wanted war or he was an idiot.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    You mean yankee slaveholders. Don't forget slavery was rampant up north also. The Confederate leaders are in heaven. Who knows where the yanks wound up. We know sherman is in the innermost circle of hell.
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