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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I don't recall claiming that the Confederacy was right......or that Slavery was right....

    The Flag is A) Part of our nation's history and B) Part of our region's history.
    There are plenty of "Regional Symbols" throughout the US. This one happens to be the one for the south.

    It would be like the Yankees baseball team changing their logo, and people who love being a New Yorker (because yes, the NY Yankees logo is often used as a "symbol" of New York by non baseball fans) being told their old Yankees hat or "flag" offends everyone because its the symbol the Yankees used during the days when blacks weren't allowed in baseball or some such nonsense.
    The confederate flag can fly over a historic civil war battle ground.

    It can used at a museam.

    But.....

    The confederate flag can not fly at any state capital, or at any position of the government.


    The flag of the confederacy is that of a foreign country.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I don't recall claiming that the Confederacy was right......or that Slavery was right....

    The Flag is A) Part of our nation's history and B) Part of our region's history.
    There are plenty of "Regional Symbols" throughout the US. This one happens to be the one for the south.

    It would be like the Yankees baseball team changing their logo, and people who love being a New Yorker (because yes, the NY Yankees logo is often used as a "symbol" of New York by non baseball fans) being told their old Yankees hat or "flag" offends everyone because its the symbol the Yankees used during the days when blacks weren't allowed in baseball or some such nonsense.
    You're doing everything in your power to say something without actually saying it. Which is pretty much par for the course with you.

    This symbol has become a symbol of racism. Be that for good or bad. This is also true of the swastika, which was a Sanskrit symbol for good fortune. Yet if someone paints a swastika in a synagogue, do you think they're wishing good fortune to the Jews? Of course not, the symbol was corrupted by Hitler and your symbol was corrupted by the KKK. I'm sorry that happened but it did.


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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Is that what that said?
    Well it was in response to my assertion that Lincoln's election was part of secession. So either you disagree with that Or you learned a whole bunch of new emotional arguments that you had to try out.


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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Did you know that pointing out that the north had slaves was an argument used by the south to justify slavery?
    Please, show me that it was an argument "used by the south to justify slavery" and not just an argument used by those in the south (.)




    Well, slavery is evil. So it stands to reason that those who fought for slavery were more evil.
    Anyone who knows anything about history knows that the Civil War was not fought to end slavery.



    I can you show a whole list of the South's denials, excuses, blaming and demonizing the North...


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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well it was in response to my assertion that Lincoln's election was part of secession. So either you disagree with that Or you learned a whole bunch of new emotional arguments that you had to try out.
    Reading is your friend. Reread it.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Anyone who knows anything about history knows that the Civil War was not fought to end slavery.
    What?!?! Are you being sarcastic?!!

    There was only ONE reason for the civil war: the south knew that the north was going to push for an end to slavery across the entire country.

    Said another way, the south would rather commit TREASON for the sake of maintaining slavery. And the confederate flag is a symbol of that desire!!

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The confederate flag can fly over a historic civil war battle ground.

    It can used at a museam.

    But.....

    The confederate flag can not fly at any state capital, or at any position of the government.


    The flag of the confederacy is that of a foreign country.
    I've said the same thing.... however.....

    It is displayed at a confederate monument in FRONT of the State Capitol on a much smaller pole than that on the top of the ACTUAL State House.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    What?!?! Are you being sarcastic?!!

    There was only ONE reason for the civil war: the south knew that the north was going to push for an end to slavery across the entire country.

    Said another way, the south would rather commit TREASON for the sake of maintaining slavery. And the confederate flag is a symbol of that desire!!
    Treason? They fought and won independence during the Revolution... were named as Individual Soverign States, Joined a VOLUNTARY union.... and Left a VOLUNTARY union. Treason is a far stretch....

    But, the war was fought to maintain the union (north's reason) and to defend its right to self governance (south's reason).

    The reasons for secession do not = the reason for the WAR.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You keep going back to that illogical leap that says since there are overall 'other' considerations, it must therefore mean it is OK or that people are 'defending' slavery.
    The flag does not represent 'slavery'. You can make it MEAN slavery if you like, but that is not what it means to the vast majority of people that grew up with it as parts of our lives. IF the people of any state wish to choose to stop flying the flag at their state buildings then that should be the choice they make and they should do it for the right reasons and NOT because a bunch of race bating morons from DC have created this 'cause' to stir **** up with. WHen you look across the country at the problems black America faces and you come to the conclusion that what you REALLY need to get spun up over is a flag and a TV show...that speaks volumes about you.
    Can you fly a Confederate flag (or any flag) right now in front of your house? Yes? Then what are you getting all "spun up" for?


    I did not create this thread. I am just talking about the subject matter. I am not getting spun up by a flag or some TV show. What TV show are you talking about? I never mentioned any TV show in this thread.

    I think that you are just making up **** and trying to make me argue for it.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Read the history. New York was a marketplace. Even when their slavery numbers were 'only' around 20k, they were still handling ships until the end of that practice was forced on them, and sales until that also was forced to be stopped.

    Ive never suggested they had more...only that if you are looking at HISTORY vs the hysteria so many of you apply, then you will see...no one comes out unscathed.
    So pointing out that slavery occurred in the north somehow diminishes slavery in the south? It just looks like your trying to water down slavery in the south so they won't look so bad.

    And BTW...since you insist on applying that stink to all southerners that support the flag of the Confederacy, didnt YOU at one time live in California? Are you a native?
    California was brought into the union as a free state. Yes, I lived there for some time, but I wasn't born there.

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