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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That guy is a ****ing nutcase...

    ManWoman given his name from the dream people when he went to the something of the sacred womb and met the guy in the white robes?

    don't care if he's nuts... at least he's doing something to take back the symbol instead of just whimpering, whining, and wishing it would disappear forever and ever

    the swastika is a very cool symbol.. and it sucks the entire world is still under Hitlers power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    from what i've been told by southerners, it doesn't represent "just one thing".

    just as the American flag represents different things to different people, so it is with other flags.

    the thing is , people are getting all gushy over the US flag... utterly ignoring the vast amount of atrocities and evil that occurred under it... and then turning around and crapping all over a flag that was once held by a rebel nation for 4 short years.

    I contend that flag has more to do with modern state of South Carolina that it does with the CSA....

    I understand many folks are incapable of changing their perspective on such matters... but i think it's rather silly, and ironic, to be held slave by a symbol.
    but I also understand in this ultra PC world we live in, stuff like this is impossible to get over... we are, after all, a perpetually offended nation.
    I'm also sure nothign will change in regards ot racism, murder, segregation, and slavery... but at least we can say we did " something".. even if that something doesn't affect anything.

    so I dunno.. might as well just ban flags altogether...especially if we're going to be hypocritical about them.
    No one is ignoring the atrocities of America. You are ignoring that we've done pretty well, not great, but pretty well in ending, rectifying or at least learning from our mistakes. That's the difference. The confederacy had no intention of honoring basic human rights for all.

    Is that clear enough? Can you make an argument with twisting what other say with ridiculous hyperbole and extreme p paraphrasing? I bet you can't.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Who? Who today looks at a swastika and sees prosperity, heaven, bounty and peace?
    Like I said, look it up and learn a bit:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Swas...ry_use_in_Asia
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    don't care if he's nuts... at least he's doing something to take back the symbol instead of just whimpering, whining, and wishing it would disappear forever and ever

    the swastika is a very cool symbol.. and it sucks the entire world is still under Hitlers power.
    I didn't say he was doing the wrong thing... just that he is ****ing nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The flag is a consequential matter, but it is a pity it comes at a time when a shooting occurred.
    Uhhh... when ISN'T there a shooting?
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Bodhi. You are white. Of course you wouldn't see it as one of hate.

    It's not a stretch that it wouldn't offend you.
    But I know my history. I understand symbols... besides, I feel black lately. I think I self-identify as black and am Trans-Black.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    don't care if he's nuts... at least he's doing something to take back the symbol instead of just whimpering, whining, and wishing it would disappear forever and ever

    the swastika is a very cool symbol.. and it sucks the entire world is still under Hitlers power.
    I am not hyper PC but I just can't go there thinking a Swastika is cool But like I said knock yourself out and wear one or better yet put one in your front yard. Or even better do a Charles Manson and tattoo one on your forehead.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    No one is ignoring the atrocities of America. You are ignoring that we've done pretty well, not great, but pretty well in ending, rectifying or at least learning from our mistakes. That's the difference. The confederacy had no intention of honoring basic human rights for all.

    Is that clear enough? Can you make an argument with twisting what other say with ridiculous hyperbole and extreme p paraphrasing? I bet you can't.
    yes, you are ignoring the atrocities of America... no doubt about it.

    and sure, we've done pretty damned good changing things as well.
    I have zero doubt the CSA, had they survived, would have changed for the better as well.... no doubt whatsoever.

    but here's the thing, if you're going to call for a flag to be taken down over atrocities and evil done under it.. then you had better check to see if the flag you are standing under is clean.
    in our case, the Stars and Stripes has flown over us while we were much much worse than the CSA ... for much, much, much longer.
    hell, even after the CSA was defeated, indians were still being slaughtered under the US flag...by government and civilians, alike

    if you're going to argue " yeah, but that was then and this is now...we changed"... that's fine... bring the stars and bars into today with you..... slavery is long dead, the stars and bars no longer flies over that place.... those southern states have changed as well.
    the State of South Carolina isn't supportive of slavery, racism, segregation, or murder.... and that's just a fact that doesn't jive with the latest narrative on their flag.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I am not hyper PC but I just can't go there thinking a Swastika is cool But like I said knock yourself out and wear one or better yet put one in your front yard. Or even better do a Charles Manson and tattoo one on your forehead.
    if you hadn't noticed by now, i'm not falling for you making this personal... so stop trying.
    maybe if i had more whiskey in me you baiting would work, but i'm sober... so knock it off.

    the symbol itself is bad ass... the historical meaning is very cool, especially for hyper-pc folks who offend easily.
    the little mustachioed maniac ruined it, and we're still under his power.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    I think the issue really isnt about the flag but about racial politics in the US- that is the one thing that needs to be addressed rather than silly stuff like flags and all that.

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