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Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups?

Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 13.6%
  • No

    Votes: 34 77.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 4 9.1%

  • Total voters
    44
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups? Arresting and detaining leaders of these groups, freezing assets, shutting down websites, and other means of stopping these groups from spreading their hate?

what is a hate group.?

people who don't like abortions?

people who don't like SSM?

people who are against things the government are engaged in?....welfare, foreign intervention, etc.

the word hate is throw around so easy today by so many people.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

The government keeps an eye on hate groups already, that's as far as it needs to go.

If they begin to make use of violence, they've gone beyond being just a hate group.

What about the Black Panthers, La Raza, Nation of Islam, the Obama administration, etc? They promote hate...regularly

Ignoring your lame swipe at Obama, he didn't exclude those folks.

BTW, the Black Panthers are gone, the New Black Panthers are an off shoot that isn't recognized by former by actual, former Black Panthers. They're scum all the same though.
 
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Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

Nope.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

What about the Black Panthers, La Raza, Nation of Islam, the Obama administration, etc? They promote hate...regularly

I certainly don't include the Obama administration as a hate group. Don't know too much about the others.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

Being hate group is not terrorism.If you are a occu-tard who hates rich people then you are free to hate all the rich people you want.Terrorism is the act or threat of violence used to coerce or intimidate people into doing something you want. If a occu-tard killed a wallstreet banker simply we because that occu-tard hates rich people then it is not a act of terrorism.Now if that occu-tard killed that wall-street banker with the hopes of intimidating or coercing other wall-street bankers into doing something that furthers the political goals of the occu-tard movement want then that would be terrorism.

Occupy people and the kkk are not the same. The kkk have historically used violence to intimidate and threaten. They also encourage others to use violence.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

The government keeps an eye on hate groups already, that's as far as it needs to go.

If they begin to make use of violence, they've gone beyond being just a hate group.



Ignoring your lame swipe at Obama, he didn't exclude those folks.

BTW, the Black Panthers are gone, the New Black Panthers are an off shoot that isn't recognized by former by actual, former Black Panthers. They're scum all the same though.

Monitoring and stopping are not the same. These groups use violence and encourage it. But only the individuals are pursued. What about the others who are actively encouraging the activity. Teaching the hate. Essentially causing these things. Freedom of speech shouldn't protect the right to promote hate and violence against others. We can target the mafia for being members, we can detain terrorists for affiliation. Why shouldn't we purge society of these groups who are actively promoting hate against Americans?
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

Monitoring and stopping are not the same. These groups use violence and encourage it. But only the individuals are pursued. What about the others who are actively encouraging the activity. Teaching the hate. Essentially causing these things. Freedom of speech shouldn't protect the right to promote hate and violence against others. We can target the mafia for being members, we can detain terrorists for affiliation. Why shouldn't we purge society of these groups who are actively promoting hate against Americans?



Freedom of speech, and of association.


Until conspiracy or accessory to a crime can be proven...
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

What about the Black Panthers, La Raza, Nation of Islam, the Obama administration, etc? They promote hate...regularly

:lamo
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

If we did that, about next Tuesday "hate groups" would be defined as "everyone who disagrees with the administration."



Drone attacks on the RNC maybe.


have you SEEN how broadly the SPLC classifies hate groups??
Yep. I think that's where they're trying to go with all this bull****. I wish they'd grow some balls and come right out and say it.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

domestic? US citizens?


OH hell no.





One of my observations is that once you have given a big, anonymous, intrusive & indifferent government permission to do something, they will stretch that permission to include powers you didn't intend to cede.

Our government already takes whatever it wants, why help it take more?

Our government is not obligated to make us more secure just as the police are not mandated to protect you. When "Push comes to Shove", you're pretty much on your own and the help you may receive from your friends & neighbors.

Thanks
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

White Nationalist groups, KKK, New Black Panthers, Conservative Citizens, Aryan Nation, or any other groups that promote hate and encourage others to perpetrate hate against others.
You may hit the nail on the head with some, but "hate" is still too nebulous to be a reasonable standard for persecution.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

Monitoring and stopping are not the same. These groups use violence and encourage it. But only the individuals are pursued. What about the others who are actively encouraging the activity. Teaching the hate. Essentially causing these things. Freedom of speech shouldn't protect the right to promote hate and violence against others. We can target the mafia for being members, we can detain terrorists for affiliation. Why shouldn't we purge society of these groups who are actively promoting hate against Americans?

Until they've made actual plans and moves to commit violence upon another, they've broken no law and anything beyond surveillance is an overstep.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

Imo, a hate crime is more spontaneous and motivated by hate (and alcohol ) towards a persons color, sex, or identity rather than their politics. Whereas terrorism is usually a pre planned plot that uses fear and violence to try and force change on an entire community or government
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

Not unless the hate group in question is actually using terror to promote its ideals. People have a right to free speech, and even if we were to restrict even the most hateful organizations, regulation of speech always has the potential to devolve into a slippery slope.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

Occupy people and the kkk are not the same.
They are both hate groups.THe op said hate groups.
The kkk have historically used violence to intimidate and threaten. They also encourage others to use violence.
The key word here is historically.That does not mean that they are currently doing the same thing now.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

I would never condone that treatment to be used on any American citizen.

Think Waco and MC.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

No I would not support the government arresting people associated with hate groups. Hate is not a crime. If these hate groups break the law and it's hate related then they may be charged with the crime plus a hate crime for added severity. I want the Constitution and the Law upheld - rounding up people who are declared a "hate group" by the government --- who says the government can't declare anyone a hate group or redefine what a hate groups is. No that's a slippery slope of totalitarianism. I don't have to like what people think, say or feel.... that doesn't automatically mean I want the government jack boot to squash them because I don't like what they say.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

Hate speech is free speech. I support "buffer zones" for funerals and the like, because I believe in the principle of "fighting words", but unless they are actively inciting crime, they must be allowed to speak their views.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

No, I wouldn't trust the government to know a hate group from a breakfast club.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

I'm not opposed to monitoring groups with a history of violence and vigorously prosecuting them for any and all crimes they may commit, but that's the limit. We've already seen in the so called war on terror how far the government will stretch the authority given to it to find a nebulous ill-defined enemy. Absolutely, no need to repeat that mistake so that it can be widely practiced on American soil against American citizens.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups?
Arresting and detaining leaders of these groups, freezing assets, shutting down websites, and other means of stopping these groups from spreading their hate?



Everyone in the USA has the 1st Amendment right to hate anyone that they choose.

Organized conspiracies which are planning criminal attacks on people that they hate are another story. Our government has all of the authority that it needs to act against groups like that. No new laws are needed.
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups? Arresting and detaining leaders of these groups, freezing assets, shutting down websites, and other means of stopping these groups from spreading their hate?

Are they spreading their hate via murder, kidnapping, arson, etc?
 
Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

White Nationalist groups, KKK, New Black Panthers, Conservative Citizens, Aryan Nation, or any other groups that promote hate and encourage others to perpetrate hate against others.

NAACP included? What about Rev Wright and his "Church", or Louis Farrakahn and his bunch? Or that crazy "church" that protest against our Heros who gave all?
 
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