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    Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Occupy people and the kkk are not the same.
    They are both hate groups.THe op said hate groups.
    The kkk have historically used violence to intimidate and threaten. They also encourage others to use violence.
    The key word here is historically.That does not mean that they are currently doing the same thing now.
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    Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

    I would never condone that treatment to be used on any American citizen.

    Think Waco and MC.
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    Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

    No I would not support the government arresting people associated with hate groups. Hate is not a crime. If these hate groups break the law and it's hate related then they may be charged with the crime plus a hate crime for added severity. I want the Constitution and the Law upheld - rounding up people who are declared a "hate group" by the government --- who says the government can't declare anyone a hate group or redefine what a hate groups is. No that's a slippery slope of totalitarianism. I don't have to like what people think, say or feel.... that doesn't automatically mean I want the government jack boot to squash them because I don't like what they say.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

    Hate speech is free speech. I support "buffer zones" for funerals and the like, because I believe in the principle of "fighting words", but unless they are actively inciting crime, they must be allowed to speak their views.

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    Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

    No, I wouldn't trust the government to know a hate group from a breakfast club.
    Be sure to work hard and get lots of overtime. People on welfare want more steaks and free upgrades to smart phones with unlimited data packages.

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    Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

    I'm not opposed to monitoring groups with a history of violence and vigorously prosecuting them for any and all crimes they may commit, but that's the limit. We've already seen in the so called war on terror how far the government will stretch the authority given to it to find a nebulous ill-defined enemy. Absolutely, no need to repeat that mistake so that it can be widely practiced on American soil against American citizens.
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    Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups?
    Arresting and detaining leaders of these groups, freezing assets, shutting down websites, and other means of stopping these groups from spreading their hate?


    Everyone in the USA has the 1st Amendment right to hate anyone that they choose.

    Organized conspiracies which are planning criminal attacks on people that they hate are another story. Our government has all of the authority that it needs to act against groups like that. No new laws are needed.

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    Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups? Arresting and detaining leaders of these groups, freezing assets, shutting down websites, and other means of stopping these groups from spreading their hate?
    Are they spreading their hate via murder, kidnapping, arson, etc?

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    Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    White Nationalist groups, KKK, New Black Panthers, Conservative Citizens, Aryan Nation, or any other groups that promote hate and encourage others to perpetrate hate against others.
    NAACP included? What about Rev Wright and his "Church", or Louis Farrakahn and his bunch? Or that crazy "church" that protest against our Heros who gave all?

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    Re: Would you support the government pursuing hate groups as they do terrorist groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Are they spreading their hate via murder, kidnapping, arson, etc?
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