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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    I don't really agree with Common Core, but I also don't think it is a good idea to give up teaching Shakespeare, considering how much it has inspired our media, when compared to other writers. We even have a Shakespeare inspired zombie story.

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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    I think we should continue with Shakespeare...it invokes thought and it inspires writers. I remember a overnight field trip to Stratford Canada and saw MacBeth and it made me fan of Theater today. It opened a door.

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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Considering in 50-100 years half the country will be speaking some bad version of Spanish or Chinese and the other half will probably be behind a wall with a massive police state, something tells me whether Shakespeare is taught or not is largely irrelevant. Things are on a course now that cannot be stopped in any respect.

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    Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Considering in 50-100 years half the country will be speaking some bad version of Spanish or Chinese and the other half will probably be behind a wall, something tells me whether Shakespeare is taught or not is largely irrelevant. Things are on a course now that cannot be stopped in any respect.
    Takes on similar stories come all the same as we are forced to read translations of ancient nearly foreign texts (Beowulf, for example).

    Hardly irrelevant.
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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Takes on similar stories come all the same as we are forced to read translations of ancient nearly foreign texts (Beowulf, for example).

    Hardly irrelevant.

    We're in the land of the Asiatic Amerindian good sir. This is not Europe. And most English racially are merely lost Germanics. Beowulf is not foreign at all to the European American (American is such a futile term racially as it means nothing, European American is more accurate).

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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    We're in the land of the Asiatic Amerindian good sir. This is not Europe. And most English racially are merely lost Germanics. Beowulf is not foreign at all to the European American (American is such a futile term racially as it means nothing, European American is more accurate).
    Perhaps it's more productive to look at the issue in terms of culture rather than ethnicity. No-one would dispute that English culture and German culture are significantly different, despite our peoples sharing some common ethnicity.

    I've not heard of a substantial movement in the USA to shift its cultural foundation from European culture to native American culture. I'd be interested to know how you get on with that!

    The other way to look at it is that, whatever we think of our cultural history, it's ours and it's part of us. In order to be serious about moving on from our history, and shift direction (a slow process), we need to understand where we have come from first.

    Whenever we write on this forum in English and discuss common cultural references and ideas, often subconsciously, we are standing on the shoulders of literary giants of history, such as Shakespeare and Twain. My game of throwing in lots of Shakespearean idioms which are still in common usage today was intended to demonstrate that.

    The issue today is that celebrity culture and widespread rejection of authority means that we all too often take our history and culture for granted and disparage it without any serious proposals for what should take its place. A serious radical espousing your views would know Shakespeare very well as part of a (more) credible plan for shifting the USA's cultural focus. If someone did that and gained a mandate from the US people, then more power to their elbow - that's what freedom is there for.

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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Ahh...Shakespeare.

    Most people that go to Shakespeare plays for the first time understand about 30-50% of the language. Children will probably understand even less.

    It's silly to teach something that most will not even understand.

    Especially with the GIGANTIC amounts of social media/internet sources, almost anyone in the West can see just about any Shakespeare play on their phones whenever they wish...what on Earth is the point of teaching it to children? Just go to YouTube and most (if not all) of them are there for free. And the written text is also easy to find...it's called Google.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...hakespere+play

    If it's a private school? Knock yourselves out...it's private money so they can teach (within reason) whatever they wish.

    But public schools wasting tax dollars to teach children plays that will be only partially understandable when these same students can barely do math or have a clue where most countries are on a map is just that...a waste.

    U.S. students improving in math and science, but still lag internationally | Pew Research Center

    Make sure students have the basics down pat and to a world standard and then start teaching them non-essentials that they can learn on their own, any time they want and for free (off of the web).
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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    We in America have Australian white women coming to America at 16 years old having dropped out of HS to become and emulate black American rappers and you seriously think "Shakespeare" holds any weight at all in our world today?


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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Ahh...Shakespeare.

    Most people that go to Shakespeare plays for the first time understand about 30-50% of the language. Children will probably understand even less.

    It's silly to teach something that most will not even understand.

    Especially with the GIGANTIC amounts of social media/internet sources, almost anyone in the West can see just about any Shakespeare play on their phones whenever they wish...what on Earth is the point of teaching it to children? Just go to YouTube and most (if not all) of them are there for free. And the written text is also easy to find...it's called Google.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...hakespere+play

    If it's a private school? Knock yourselves out...it's private money so they can teach (within reason) whatever they wish.

    But public schools wasting tax dollars to teach children plays that will be only partially understandable when these same students can barely do math or have a clue where most countries are on a map is just that...a waste.

    U.S. students improving in math and science, but still lag internationally | Pew Research Center

    Make sure students have the basics down pat and to a world standard and then start teaching them non-essentials that they can learn on their own, any time they want and for free (off of the web).
    Perhaps instead of assuming children won't be able to understand it, we should perhaps use it to challenge students? I didn't find it all that hard to understand. It really isn't that difficult, especially not for high school, which is usually where we see it taught.
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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Ahh...Shakespeare.

    Most people that go to Shakespeare plays for the first time understand about 30-50% of the language. Children will probably understand even less.

    It's silly to teach something that most will not even understand.

    Especially with the GIGANTIC amounts of social media/internet sources, almost anyone in the West can see just about any Shakespeare play on their phones whenever they wish...what on Earth is the point of teaching it to children? Just go to YouTube and most (if not all) of them are there for free. And the written text is also easy to find...it's called Google.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...hakespere+play

    If it's a private school? Knock yourselves out...it's private money so they can teach (within reason) whatever they wish.

    But public schools wasting tax dollars to teach children plays that will be only partially understandable when these same students can barely do math or have a clue where most countries are on a map is just that...a waste.

    U.S. students improving in math and science, but still lag internationally | Pew Research Center

    Make sure students have the basics down pat and to a world standard and then start teaching them non-essentials that they can learn on their own, any time they want and for free (off of the web).
    The logic of your post is that English teachers are too rubbish to teach Shakespeare. Perhaps some are, but it's not inherently unteachable. You could say similar stuff about foreign languages or physics. If kids come away from lessons having understood little and engoyed it even less, that's a teaching problem.

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