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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Alas, poor Yorick. I knew him, Horatio.



    See? We wouldn't even have that line if we didn't study the Bard.

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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Yes.


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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    As a 27 year old white guy No. I could care less if he's taught. Absolutely no relevance to our society today at all.

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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    As a 27 year old white guy No. I could care less if he's taught. Absolutely no relevance to our society today at all.
    case in point for the thread?




    Anyways, his works are the foundation of pretty much every bit of English composition since, and his works have been adapted and retold (some , to be fair aren't that original to begin with) countless times over. To say it has no relevance is to basically say English literature should not be studied. I'd be curious to hear more specific explanation of why you think so?

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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Yes, of course.

    I think Dana Dusbiber's a dummy, and I was delighted several days ago to read this reader comment by "streiff" at Red State:

    One of the bywords of the cultural revolution of the late 1960s when it his college campuses was “relevance.” Students, it was claimed, had the ability to decide what was “relevant” to them and to disregard the rest. What it boiled down to was two generations of history majors who never had to memorize dates and English majors who were never required to learn grammar. Now we see this effect in high school classrooms where teachers are deciding, based on skin color, what material their students should learn and what is too difficult to master.

    Once one gets past the utter racism of this point of view and the condescension that says history-began-about-the-time-I-started-high-school — and slack-jawed wonder at the thought a very white-bread, progressive teacher teaching “oral tradition out of Africa” apparently without a text, because oral tradition — we see a nihilism, a Jacobinism, so familiar in the cultural left since Robespierre and his cronies jettisoned the calendar and converted churches into “temples of reason.” We are witnessing a belief that nothing that happened at any point in the past is relevant or useful and that personal testimony is more powerful than millenia of collective human experience.

    While Ms. Dusbiber is patting herself on the back at her wisdom in deciding that race makes literature relevant, she is also hamstringing every one of her students by sending them into the world with the view that nothing is significant but their own experiences. They will dumber and, in the long run, poorer for having sat in her classroom.

    English teacher: why study Shakespeare? He's a dead white guy | RedState

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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    As a 27 year old white guy No. I could care less if he's taught. Absolutely no relevance to our society today at all.


    Yeah, and that math and history you're forced to learn in high school, you'll never use that again either.

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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    The plays that are attributed to him should be taught, they are wonderful and promote modern values, but it should also be pointed that there is not much evidence to support the claim that these are all plays written by him or that he has even existed.
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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    case in point for the thread?




    Anyways, his works are the foundation of pretty much every bit of English composition since, and his works have been adapted and retold (some , to be fair aren't that original to begin with) countless times over. To say it has no relevance is to basically say English literature should not be studied. I'd be curious to hear more specific explanation of why you think so?

    We in America have Australian white women coming to America at 16 years old having dropped out of HS to become and emulate black American rappers and you seriously think "Shakespeare" holds any weight at all in our world today?


    Iggy Azalea’s post-racial mess: America’s oldest race tale, remixed - Salon.com

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iggy_Azalea

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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    I'd agree that at one fell swoop, there has been a sea change in attitudes to Shakespeare. We can no longer expect modern youth to be exceedingly well read. Ultimately, there's no rhyme nor reason why Shakespeare should be taught forever and a day, and it's high time things changed. I say good riddance to Shakespeare.

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    Re: Should Shakespeare still be taught in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    We in America have Australian white women coming to America at 16 years old having dropped out of HS to become and emulate black American rappers and you seriously think "Shakespeare" holds any weight at all in our world today?


    Iggy Azalea’s post-racial mess: America’s oldest race tale, remixed - Salon.com

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iggy_Azalea
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