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Death penalty for ........ ?

Death penalty for ...?

  • Criminals guilty of 1st and 2nd degree murder,serial killers,mass murderers

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  • serial killers , serial rapists ,pedophiles,

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • only mass murderers

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • any kind of murderers and rapists

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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    54

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.... grammatical errors.


If I'm going to be a grammar Nazi, I might as well be a good one.
 
I've been on the fence for a very long time with the death penalty debate. Until I resolve the consideration of deterrence as a reason to have the death penalty, it is going to continue to be problematic.
 
Those who have committed deliberate premeditated acts of violence and can not be rehabilitated, regardless of age and mentality.
We simply do not need these type of people in society and we do not need to support their continued existence.
 
I am for it on a case by case basis. I would agree with Death Penalty in 1st degree murder, Rapist, Pedophiles, Even for schemes that cheat people out of millions of dollars. Think Bernie Madoff. Again all of these would be case by case.
 
You forgot a poll option: people in front of you who try to take a left onto a busy street at rush hour, and there's no traffic light. Punishment: instant death, no trial.
 
You forgot a poll option: people in front of you who try to take a left onto a busy street at rush hour, and there's no traffic light. Punishment: instant death, no trial.

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I've been on the fence for a very long time with the death penalty debate. Until I resolve the consideration of deterrence as a reason to have the death penalty, it is going to continue to be problematic.

Do you view the primary reason for penalties such as death or imprisonment to be deterrent or punishment? Ideally both I'm sure, but the primary reason.
 
Do you view the primary reason for penalties such as death or imprisonment to be deterrent or punishment? Ideally both I'm sure, but the primary reason.

All penalties are punishment. Anyone who thinks they are a deterrent is an idiot.
 
I do not believe in the death penalty, it is highly discriminatory (and not just in the sense of the color of the condemned, but 2 people who have committed nearly identical crimes can be punished hugely different, one getting the death penalty and one 25 to life) in the manner of how it is given.
 
I do not support the death penalty. However, I selected "other" because the entire American justice and penal system needs to be changed.
 
Murderers, rapists, child molesters, torturers, severe animal abusers.
 
I don't not support the death penalty because the US criminal justice system has more holes than a piece of swiss cheese and we get it wrong with frightening regularity.
Unless we can get the error rate to 0% I cannot support the death penalty.
 
I do not support the death penalty. However, I selected "other" because the entire American justice and penal system needs to be changed.

Yes, with the insanity of bond for very minor offenses and people not being able to pay them (causing them to sit in jail until their trial where they get a sentence lower than the time they already spent behind bars) making poor people even poorer and worse off. And with the bounty hunters who do not have any rules to really follow (including breaking and entering etc). Huge prison sentences for non violent drug offenses, etc. etc. etc.

And than we are not looking past the political efforts to deny people who have spent time in jail from voting, which is a cruel and unusual punishment.
 
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I'm such a pain. Didn't find any I agreed with.

The death penalty is a good bargaining chip. Plea bargaining it to life without parole which requires full confession in open court (for family benefit) and negates the appeals process isn't all bad. And, of course, if they DON'T take a plea and ARE sentenced to death, they'll spend their appeal time on death row in almost solitary confinement...year after year after year.

I'm for having the death penalty but not using it except as I've talked about above. For many of these psychopaths, the death penalty is MUCH too easy an exit.
 
I'm such a pain. Didn't find any I agreed with.

The death penalty is a good bargaining chip. Plea bargaining it to life without parole which requires full confession in open court (for family benefit) and negates the appeals process isn't all bad. And, of course, if they DON'T take a plea and ARE sentenced to death, they'll spend their appeal time on death row in almost solitary confinement...year after year after year.

I'm for having the death penalty but not using it except as I've talked about above. For many of these psychopaths, the death penalty is MUCH too easy an exit.


So you've been charged with a murder you didn't commit and are faced with two options

1. Roll the dice on a trial, spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and face the possibility of conviction and then execution
2. Plead guilty, live and save your family lots of grief and expense.

Which do you choose?
 
So you've been charged with a murder you didn't commit and are faced with two options

1. Roll the dice on a trial, spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and face the possibility of conviction and then execution
2. Plead guilty, live and save your family lots of grief and expense.

Which do you choose?

If you're innocent, you're screwed either way.
 
If you're innocent, you're screwed either way.

Yep and I don't know about you but I'd rather be screwed and alive to fight another day than dead.
Prosecutors routinely overcharge to get people to plead to a lesser offense. We don't have a trial system, what we really have is a plea bargain system. Only something like 3% of people ever go to trial, the rest take plea bargains. If the stats I see that state somewhere between 3-5% of the people convicted are actually innocent are accurate that would mean an awful lot of innocent people don't roll the dice and take a shorter stint in prison rather than chance a longer term after a trial.
 
Yep and I don't know about you but I'd rather be screwed and alive to fight another day than dead.
Prosecutors routinely overcharge to get people to plead to a lesser offense. We don't have a trial system, what we really have is a plea bargain system. Only something like 3% of people ever go to trial, the rest take plea bargains. If the stats I see that state somewhere between 3-5% of the people convicted are actually innocent are accurate that would mean an awful lot of innocent people don't roll the dice and take a shorter stint in prison rather than chance a longer term after a trial.

Shrug. Those people who take a plea and are innocent? That's on them. No discussion necessary. If only 3% go to trial and the rest plea? If that's true? Our court system would explode without plea bargaining. Taxes are high enough already. What we don't need is exploding justice dept budgets.
 
Shrug. Those people who take a plea and are innocent? That's on them. No discussion necessary. If only 3% go to trial and the rest plea? If that's true? Our court system would explode without plea bargaining. Taxes are high enough already. What we don't need is exploding justice dept budgets.

Welp, time to start my night of drinking.
 
I'm really not comfortable with the state performing executions. It's morally questionable, can't be undone if the victim turns out to be innocent, and it's a huge waste of money. Life imprisonment with the possibility of parole is the strictest punishment I support, which would be much cheaper for the government to carry out.
 
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