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  • For the criminals guilty of 1st degree murder ,mass murderers ,serial killers

    5 9.26%
  • Serial killers ,mass murderers ,organized criminals participating in terrorist actions

    4 7.41%
  • Criminals guilty of 1st and 2nd degree murder,serial killers,mass murderers

    0 0%
  • serial killers , serial rapists ,pedophiles,

    0 0%
  • all kind of murderers , rapists ,pedohiles

    4 7.41%
  • only mass murderers

    0 0%
  • any kind of murderers and rapists

    0 0%
  • it is against human rights

    2 3.70%
  • I am against death penalty

    30 55.56%
  • Other

    9 16.67%
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    Re: Death penalty for ........ ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    how ? dead people need to be fed ?
    The process and the appeals. Human life intrinsically has quite a lot of value, taking it should reflect that.
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    I am against Death Penalty

    This one needs a little more to explain my stance.

    I am against the death penalty for one, and only one, reason. Unless you are 100% sure that the person you are convicting is guilty you should not impose the death penalty. And since we can not always be absolutely 100% sure we should not have the death penalty. However, I hope this situation changes sooner rather than later so that the people who do not deserve to live anymore for what they have done will be put to rest by using the death penalty. Until then I will be against the death penalty.


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    Re: Death penalty for ........ ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey View Post
    I am against Death Penalty

    This one needs a little more to explain my stance.

    I am against the death penalty for one, and only one, reason. Unless you are 100% sure that the person you are convicting is guilty you should not impose the death penalty. And since we can not always be absolutely 100% sure we should not have the death penalty. However, I hope this situation changes sooner rather than later so that the people who do not deserve to live anymore for what they have done will be put to rest by using the death penalty. Until then I will be against the death penalty.


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    Re: Death penalty for ........ ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey View Post
    I am against Death Penalty

    This one needs a little more to explain my stance.

    I am against the death penalty for one, and only one, reason. Unless you are 100% sure that the person you are convicting is guilty you should not impose the death penalty. And since we can not always be absolutely 100% sure we should not have the death penalty. However, I hope this situation changes sooner rather than later so that the people who do not deserve to live anymore for what they have done will be put to rest by using the death penalty. Until then I will be against the death penalty.

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    Re: Death penalty for ........ ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Those who have committed deliberate premeditated acts of violence and can not be rehabilitated, regardless of age and mentality.
    We simply do not need these type of people in society and we do not need to support their continued existence.
    Trouble:

    1) There are errors in determining guilt in the first place
    2) How do you tell whether someone can be rehabilitated or not? Who makes that call?
    3) Any reasonable process to accomplish 1 and 2 costs more than just housing them forever.
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    Re: Death penalty for ........ ?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    I've been on the fence for a very long time with the death penalty debate. Until I resolve the consideration of deterrence as a reason to have the death penalty, it is going to continue to be problematic.
    Yes, and what I have read in the past says that it is not a deterrant. As such, then it becomes vengeance, which I disagree with in the justice system.

    So while I do not object to the death penalty on 'all life is sacred' grounds, I do so on my belief that the justice system of sentencing should be about protecting the public and not vengeance. So locking them up forever meets that goal.
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    Re: Death penalty for ........ ?

    imo death penalty should apply to following cases/acts

    capital murder

    mass murder

    any terrorist act that causes death

    1st degree murder cases depending on special circumstances (da discretion)

    i have thought long on adding pedophiles to that list.....and though i want to add them, i dont think society as a whole thinks the same way

    pedophiles belong in a category of their own.....if i knew that it would work, i would castrate them all....and then release back into society...hoping the castration removed the impetus to harm children.....but not sure it would work....and if not 100% i wouldnt want to risk any other child to their debauchery
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    Re: Death penalty for ........ ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Human life intrinsically has quite a lot of value, taking it should reflect that.
    I think that this debate, in general, is very much about that. People choose to weigh some value (which is not intrinsic, btw...there is no biological component to value) of the condemned against their victim(s) and society overall. It's very subjective.

    So I prefer to stick to the tangibles, like keeping society safe (which life in prision should accomplish), lack of certainty in all convictions (the innocent may be convicted), and costs.

    My moral grounds against it come from my belief that the justice system should not be about vengeance but about protecting individual rights and society.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    asking if their should be a death penalty.

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    Re: Death penalty for ........ ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I think that this debate, in general, is very much about that. People choose to weigh some value (which is not intrinsic, btw...there is no biological component to value) of the condemned against their victim(s) and society overall. It's very subjective.

    So I prefer to stick to the tangibles, like keeping society safe (which life in prision should accomplish), lack of certainty in all convictions (the innocent may be convicted), and costs.

    My moral grounds against it come from my belief that the justice system should not be about vengeance but about protecting individual rights and society.
    Perchance, but I don't see what's so subjective about human life having innate worth. All humans are human, we are all equal, and for that to be true all our lives must fundamentally be the "worth" the same.
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