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    Re: Gun Control? Republicans or Democrats seen as more "Rational" by American Public?

    If you actually understand the issue-Republicans

    if you are a Sheeple and don't really understand what motivates gun control-you probably think the Dems are more in favor of public safety

    but that is why the Dems often lose. They have weak levels of support by people who really aren't informed or really care-while the GOP has people who take this issue seriously

    Its why Clinton brayed that most people supported his idiotic gun laws and then his party got its collective ass handed to it in 1994: Clinton admitted his gun bans was the main reason why the Dems lost control of both houses
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    Re: Gun Control? Republicans or Democrats seen as more "Rational" by American Public?

    Gun control laws do nothing to stop crime or mass shootings. The problem isn't the guns themselves, something many left of center fail to grasp.
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    Re: Gun Control? Republicans or Democrats seen as more "Rational" by American Public?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    During the push for background checks on gun sales after the Sandy Hook School tragedy, I saw figures as high as in the 80 percentiles in favor - yet the NRA got the GOP to defeat the measure.

    So in that particular facet at least, I'd say the Dems had the pulse of the average American far beyond that of the GOP.
    Trusting loaded polls is never a good idea. Are you claiming the outcry from constituents played no role whatsoever?

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    Re: Gun Control? Republicans or Democrats seen as more "Rational" by American Public?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    Gun control laws do nothing to stop crime or mass shootings. The problem isn't the guns themselves, something many left of center fail to grasp.
    gun control laws-or at least to those lead the effort to pass them-are not designed to control crime but to harass gun owners. The Hughes Amendment is proof of that.
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    Re: Gun Control? Republicans or Democrats seen as more "Rational" by American Public?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    Gun control laws do nothing to stop crime or mass shootings. The problem isn't the guns themselves, something many left of center fail to grasp.
    But the complete nationwide ban of recreational drugs is so successful.

    If we made "crime tools" illegal it would surely stop crime.
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    Re: Gun Control? Republicans or Democrats seen as more "Rational" by American Public?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    Gun control laws do nothing to stop crime or mass shootings. The problem isn't the guns themselves, something many left of center fail to grasp.
    Why does America have so many more mentally disturbed people that don't care about the law than any other country?

    Also, as an aside, why did Australia see such a decline in mass shootings once they banned guns? Does banning guns also cause the number of mentally disturbed people who don't care about laws to drop? I don't know if gun control is the answer, but waving tragedies off as just being down to 'some whacko' is becoming a tiring rhetoric. We have a problem, and whatever the cause is, it's time to stop just putting this down to 'just another disturbed kook', letting the story fade into the background, and then the same thing happening again.

    No so bold prediction: This will happen again if we continue to treat it like every other one of the umpteen mass shootings that we have experienced in the last few decades.
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    Re: Gun Control? Republicans or Democrats seen as more "Rational" by American Public?

    Democrats identify the problem of gun violence, which is a huge problem, and choose to address it by restricting gun rights instead. Republicans oppose gun control, and during the Sandy Hook mess they were calling for mental healthcare as the solution, but then when congress actually talks about mental healthcare, they oppose any form of public healthcare or expanded mental healthcare programs. I don't like either position.

    I actually agree with RedAkston, in that expanded access to mental healthcare is the proper response to gun violence, not inane gun bans and excessive restrictions on gun ownership.
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    Re: Gun Control? Republicans or Democrats seen as more "Rational" by American Public?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Why does America have so many more mentally disturbed people that don't care about the law than any other country?

    Also, as an aside, why did Australia see such a decline in mass shootings once they banned guns? Does banning guns also cause the number of mentally disturbed people who don't care about laws to drop? I don't know if gun control is the answer, but waving tragedies off as just being down to 'some whacko' is becoming a tiring rhetoric. We have a problem, and whatever the cause is, it's time to stop just putting this down to 'just another disturbed kook', letting the story fade into the background, and then the same thing happening again.

    No so bold prediction: This will happen again if we continue to treat it like every other one of the umpteen mass shootings that we have experienced in the last few decades.
    Of course this will continue. Mass shootings are increasing...

    It's not just a perception: Mass shootings have become more frequent, data show - LA Times

    If it seems like mass shootings are becoming more common, researchers say there's a good reason: They are.
    Between a 2011 shooting at an IHOP restaurant in Carson City, Nev., that left four people dead and the 2013 attack on the Washington Navy Yard where 12 people were killed, a mass shooting occurred somewhere in America once every 64 days, on average.
    In the preceding 29 years, such shootings occurred on average every 200 days, according to an analysis by researchers from Harvard University's School of Public Health and Northeastern University.

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    Re: Gun Control? Republicans or Democrats seen as more "Rational" by American Public?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Why does America have so many more mentally disturbed people that don't care about the law than any other country?
    We don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Also, as an aside, why did Australia see such a decline in mass shootings once they banned guns? Does banning guns also cause the number of mentally disturbed people who don't care about laws to drop? I don't know if gun control is the answer, but waving tragedies off as just being down to 'some whacko' is becoming a tiring rhetoric. We have a problem, and whatever the cause is, it's time to stop just putting this down to 'just another disturbed kook', letting the story fade into the background, and then the same thing happening again.
    Well a few reasons....

    Australia has a much smaller population which translates into far fewer firearms to begin with. Australia had no 2nd amendment guaranteeing them the right to firearms. You are trying to compare apples to kiwi.

    In Australia a 2014 Stabbing attack left 8 children aged 18 months to 15 years killed. A 37 year old woman also found injured. The woman was later charged with the murder of the children, 7 of whom were hers, plus her niece.

    8 children dead with a knife. Where there is a will there is a way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    No so bold prediction: This will happen again if we continue to treat it like every other one of the umpteen mass shootings that we have experienced in the last few decades.
    Well please instead of making useless prophetic statements which get us no place. Please tell us what new laws will stop it?
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    Re: Gun Control? Republicans or Democrats seen as more "Rational" by American Public?

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    Who do you think the American Public see's as more rational on gun control in America? Republicans or Democrats?
    Wow, that a messed up question. You don't want my opinion of what is more rational, you want my opinion on what I think the majority opinion is across America?

    Do you mean dem/rep politicians, or dem/rep voters? I see neither as rational as rational, but for vastly different reasons.
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