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    Re: Do You Support Fast Track (TPP/TPA)?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Negative consequences on internet freedom, and copyrights: https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp
    Corporate influence and economic sovereignty: Now We Know Why Huge TPP Trade Deal Is Kept Secret From the Public*|*Dave Johnson
    List of some negative aspects with drug prices, internet freedom, banking: What Is the Trans Pacific Partnership?*|*Judy Frankel
    Well damn. I completely misunderstood what was going on with this. I was under the impression this was being suggested as a means to allow more American exports into other countries.
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    Re: Do You Support Fast Track (TPP/TPA)?

    Yes I do because the good that it does for the business Im in will help Americans ten fold and its the first ****ing thing I can think of that Republicans and Obama agree on.
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    Re: Do You Support Fast Track (TPP/TPA)?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    While the TPP/TPA/Fast Track debate is currently going on in the House of Representatives I thought I would get opinion of the DP community.
    I do not support fast tracking. The fact they doing this means they are trying to hide something before its too late to something about it.
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    Re: Do You Support Fast Track (TPP/TPA)?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    While the TPP/TPA/Fast Track debate is currently going on in the House of Representatives I thought I would get opinion of the DP community.
    FASTTRACK being the operative word here... NO, trade agreements shouldn't be passed "fast" or without the Legislature and the general public knowing what's in it, and having an opportunity to have comments about it.

    That said, from what I've seen as a result of our other trade agreements, guessing as best I can what likely in this one, I'm likely against the TPP as well.

    But I am certainly against the fast track authorization, regardless of whether I would like the TPP.
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    Re: Do You Support Fast Track (TPP/TPA)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Well damn. I completely misunderstood what was going on with this. I was under the impression this was being suggested as a means to allow more American exports into other countries.
    If 'exports' you mean American jobs, then yes it would.
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    Re: Do You Support Fast Track (TPP/TPA)?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    That's right and anyone who is for or against it is just guessing.
    Good point.
    The thing is kept under lock and key.
    Ours reps are only allowed to gaze at it for short intervals and NO taking notes??!!
    I'm certain there are valid reasons why the specifics are being kept secret.....not.
    With this thing, my worry would be that the trade deal will be approved and then, when the messy details are revealed we'll hear that......

    ".....the good far outweighs the bad, so in the USA's best interests we must approve this deal...."

    which, translated into plain English means.....

    " You just got screwed....deal with it."
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    Re: Do You Support Fast Track (TPP/TPA)?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Yes I do because the good that it does for the business Im in will help Americans ten fold
    How are you privileged to know these facts, while the rest of us can only guess about the contents?

    and its the first ****ing thing I can think of that Republicans and Obama agree on.
    I dunno, JW.
    The results of both parties agreeing on any ****ing thing is mixed at best.
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    Re: Do You Support Fast Track (TPP/TPA)?

    I don't support the fast tracking of any bills. Also makes me scared that I agree with the Democrats in the house.

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    Re: Do You Support Fast Track (TPP/TPA)?

    I would only support such agreements unless they are with other nations of similar standards, not poorer nations where cheap labor can be exported out of the US by US based companies.
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    Re: Do You Support Fast Track (TPP/TPA)?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I would only support such agreements unless they are with other nations of similar standards, not poorer nations where cheap labor can be exported out of the US by US based companies.
    This is basically my view on trade agreements. Trade agreements should not be used just so companies can outsource to exploit cheaper labor and lower standards
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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