View Poll Results: Who would you vote for in the Danish general election of 2015?

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  • Venstre (Liberal)

    2 15.38%
  • Social Democrat

    5 38.46%
  • Danish People's Party

    1 7.69%
  • Social Liberal

    0 0%
  • Socialist People's Party

    0 0%
  • Red-Green Alliance

    2 15.38%
  • Liberal Alliance

    0 0%
  • Conservative People's

    2 15.38%
  • The Alternative

    0 0%
  • Christian Democrat

    1 7.69%
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Thread: Danish Election 2015- How would you vote?

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    Re: Danish Election 2015- How would you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Well in proportional party-list system yes. Usually the leader of the party takes the first spot and then the cabinet and other prominent members of the party. It solves the problem of a party leader or other prominent members of a party losing their seats.
    Wrong. You can vote either for the party and then your vote goes to the person the party decides, usually the nr 1 on the list, till that person is voted and then it goes to the next one and so on. Or you vote personally, but setting an X by a candidates name and then your vote goes to that person.
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    Re: Danish Election 2015- How would you vote?

    I'd vote for the hottest blond.
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    Hamlet, if he's running. Gives one hell of a speech.

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    Re: Danish Election 2015- How would you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    The only difference in terminology between Danish and U.S. politics is the use of the term liberal, which like in most European countries refers more to free-market liberalism as opposed to left liberalism. Other than that, the only difference here is that I'm writing in English, not Danish. :p
    No. The term liberal in Denmark and the rest of the planet minus the US, is the true meaning of the word, not the twisted version that Americans are use too.

    That isn't really an option in countries with a parliamentary system elected by proportional representation. Like it or not, citizens of Denmark are forced to vote for parties instead of individuals.
    Wrong, see my other post on this subject.

    When the Liberals/Venstre were in power in 2011 (before the election), they promised to balance the budget by 2020 by cutting pensions. Not sure if that changes anything for you.
    All parties want to balance the budget, even the radical left. Denmark in normal economic times has always run near a balanced budget.. it is a principle of Danish politics.

    You may have been interested in the Progress Party before they stopped contesting elections. Their platform included a repeal of 90% of all legislation, and with exception of an anti-Islamic immigration stance, they were essentially a more "purist" libertarian group than the Liberal Alliance.
    Liberal Alliance are Conservatives who fled from the Conservative platform because of scandal and links to Bush.

    The Progress Party still exists, it is just called The Peoples Party. There was a rift back in the day between the bat crazy far right founder and the more common sense members, and they split into the Peoples Party. Now the Peoples Party is not much different than the Progress Party, they are just not as openly racist and anti Muslim.. They are a disgrace to Denmark and sadly will most likely be the 3rd largest party after the election.
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    Re: Danish Election 2015- How would you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'd vote for the hottest blond.
    Pft it is Denmark, they are a dime a dozen

    Now this girl is up and coming but not running for office yet..

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    Re: Danish Election 2015- How would you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Pft it is Denmark, they are a dime a dozen

    Now this girl is up and coming but not running for office yet..

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    Okay, just this once the brunette on the left gets my vote.
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    Re: Danish Election 2015- How would you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No. The term liberal in Denmark and the rest of the planet minus the US, is the true meaning of the word, not the twisted version that Americans are use too.
    Hong Kong, and South Korea are two political systems I think of off the top of my head where liberalism is associated with the left.

    Wrong, see my other post on this subject.
    Thanks for the info, I didn't know Denmark had that option.

    All parties want to balance the budget, even the radical left. Denmark in normal economic times has always run near a balanced budget.. it is a principle of Danish politics.
    Well you're obviously more knowledgeable about Danish politics than I am, but is there something incorrect about the article I posted? If Denmark maintains a balanced budget every year, why did Venstre propose a plan to balance the budget by 2020?

    Liberal Alliance are Conservatives who fled from the Conservative platform because of scandal and links to Bush.
    There are some ideological differences too, no? I was under the impression that the Conservative People's Party had a slightly more socially conservative lean.

    The Progress Party still exists, it is just called The Peoples Party. There was a rift back in the day between the bat crazy far right founder and the more common sense members, and they split into the Peoples Party. Now the Peoples Party is not much different than the Progress Party, they are just not as openly racist and anti Muslim.. They are a disgrace to Denmark and sadly will most likely be the 3rd largest party after the election.
    I'm aware that Progress and the Danish People's Party are both filled with xenophobic scumbags (and that DPP split from Progress), but there is a difference in their economic policy. The DPP is generally supportive of the social safety net's existence, while Progress essentially wants to get rid of all aspects of government with the exception of immigration controls and a few other things, which is why I suggested them to DA60, who seems to be into that kind of thing.
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    Re: Danish Election 2015- How would you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Well in proportional party-list system yes. Usually the leader of the party takes the first spot and then the cabinet and other prominent members of the party. It solves the problem of a party leader or other prominent members of a party losing their seats.
    In the Netherlands every party files a list of candidates with the election authority. The positions on the list are decided by the parties itself. For example, the party who won the last election will be list number 1, their party leader will be number 1 on that list and the rest of the candidates take the rest of the places on the list. Normally every party has so many prospective members that a good deal will not be elected because normally you can vote for each candidate. If that candidate has so many votes that she qualifies for a place in parliament, then someone else of the party will not be allowed in our version of the house of representatives.

    Say party 1 has won 20 seats, then if no-one has enough preferential votes to win their seat outright, the party leader and the 19 people who are on the list on place 2 through 20 will have won a seat. But if say number 23 on the list is so popular that he/she has enough preferential votes to win a seat, then the last one on the list to normally get a seat will lose out because the party has a maximum of 20 seats to fill.

    But if this party becomes part of the coalition government then 1 or more will become members of government, they will then no longer be part of the house of representatives because you cannot be both in government and a MP. So they will vacate their seats and say 8 MP's of that party will become part of the government, then their seats will be filled by the numbers 20 to 27 on their original list.

    A lot of political parties have list-pushers, purely put on the list of electable figures to incite people to vote for them (like former party leaders, musicians, actors, writers, etc.) to push the vote for their party but those people will never win enough (and do not really want to be) sitting in parliament.

    And every party constructs it's list of candidates in the same way.
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    Re: Danish Election 2015- How would you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Hong Kong, and South Korea are two political systems I think of off the top of my head where liberalism is associated with the left.
    Are you sure?

    Well you're obviously more knowledgeable about Danish politics than I am, but is there something incorrect about the article I posted? If Denmark maintains a balanced budget every year, why did Venstre propose a plan to balance the budget by 2020?
    Its called a global economic crisis. And I did not say that we had a balanced budget, but that we aspired to one each year. It is impossible to do in practice without Texas style voodoo accounting and a sugar daddy.

    There are some ideological differences too, no? I was under the impression that the Conservative People's Party had a slightly more socially conservative lean.
    Well lets put it this way. The Conservatives are the old farts club and the Liberal Alliance is a younger more hip crowd who are ashamed of their parents. The differences in policy on the right with the exception of the Peoples Party racists, is very small.

    I'm aware that Progress and the Danish People's Party are both filled with xenophobic scumbags (and that DPP split from Progress), but there is a difference in their economic policy. The DPP is generally supportive of the social safety net's existence, while Progress essentially wants to get rid of all aspects of government with the exception of immigration controls and a few other things, which is why I suggested them to DA60, who seems to be into that kind of thing.
    Wait what, they have an economic policy all of a sudden? Since when! Their policy is Dane for Danes, out of the EU, Muslims, coloureds (even the Danish ones) and foreigners out and everything that is wrong in society is the foreigners fault or the EU. They are the original Tea Party and UKIP and Front National. The funny thing is the party started out as an anti-Tax (tea party) party and was extremely popular in the 1970s. Its founder got sent to jail for tax evasion.. he paid 0% in taxes. He is also famous for sending in his tax returns on toilet paper, because the law at the time did not stipulate how it was to be presented. The he got crazy and started to blame Muslims for everything.
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    Re: Danish Election 2015- How would you vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Are you sure?
    Well in Hong Kong, the left is the pro-democracy camp, and the right is the pro-Beijing camp, which basically defends the fake communism that China has now. So in order to distance themselves from the pro-Beijing camp, they choose to preach liberalism instead of socialism. According to wiki, the Democrats, the largest pro-democracy party, "Advocates economic policies pretty close to "liberalism" in the sense of John Rawls (rather than, say, of Robert Nozick or Friedrich Hayek, as commonly accepted outside North America)". There are some smaller pro-democracy social democratic parties, but the Democrats are by far the largest pro-democracy group.

    South Korea is sort of going through its own red scare right now, which is somewhat understandable when you consider who its neighbor to the North is. The Unified Progressive Party, which was the third largest party in South Korea, was banned for having allegedly pro-North Korea views. They didn't have a remotely pro-North Korea position IMO (but some people may disagree on what a pro-North Korea position is), and were vocal opponents of their human rights record and use of nuclear weapons, but they advocated ending a military alliance with the United States in favor of a peaceful path to reunification under a South Korean government. Although they were the most left-wing, and would probably call themselves socialists under any other party system, they shied away from the term and they, and their successors, call themselves progressives. But with the Unified Progressives banned, the major left-leaning party is the New Politics Alliance, which call themselves liberals and are to the left of the governing Saenuri Party, which is the dominant right-wing party.

    In addition to their proximity to faux-communist countries, another reason for liberalism dominating the left in Asia is that being part of the Pacific Rim, East Asian democracies are increasingly influenced by American schools of thought, probably more so than many other countries.

    Its called a global economic crisis. And I did not say that we had a balanced budget, but that we aspired to one each year. It is impossible to do in practice without Texas style voodoo accounting and a sugar daddy.

    Well lets put it this way. The Conservatives are the old farts club and the Liberal Alliance is a younger more hip crowd who are ashamed of their parents. The differences in policy on the right with the exception of the Peoples Party racists, is very small.

    Wait what, they have an economic policy all of a sudden? Since when! Their policy is Dane for Danes, out of the EU, Muslims, coloureds (even the Danish ones) and foreigners out and everything that is wrong in society is the foreigners fault or the EU. They are the original Tea Party and UKIP and Front National. The funny thing is the party started out as an anti-Tax (tea party) party and was extremely popular in the 1970s. Its founder got sent to jail for tax evasion.. he paid 0% in taxes. He is also famous for sending in his tax returns on toilet paper, because the law at the time did not stipulate how it was to be presented. The he got crazy and started to blame Muslims for everything.
    Thanks for answering my questions.
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