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Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?[W:29]

Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?


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Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

Correct. If you get brownie points for giving away someone else's money...sign me up

Liberal politicians pretend they care by taking your money and buying the votes of others
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

You already said she was a liberal.

Outliers exist....I'm talking averages here.

White, wealthy males over the age of 65 tend to vote Republican. Doesn't mean I can't point out some outliers, just pointing out a tendency.

This is how I see it....as I move through middle age.:) Most folks are shades of purple....meaning that they lean blue on some issues and red on other issues. It is the extreme fringe...who slants far right or left...no matter the issue. They are loyal to party whether the issue or proposal is absurd or not. The extreme left is walking away from accountability while the far right would prefer the dark ages. Thank goodness...most are a different shade of purple.
 
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Liberal politicians pretend they care by taking your money and buying the votes of others

All politicians are the same...it is difficult to tell them apart anymore. The both like to "take" money from the donors and they are all whores.
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

there have been all sorts of studies on this

single women tend to be Democrats. Single women with children-even more so as they want big brother's help raising the children in the absence of a husband. Doesn't matter if they are rich or poor. married women are less likely to be Democrats but women vote Democrat far more than men. Indeed, every presidential election since 1920 (the year women could vote), the GOP candidate, save Barry Goldwater) won the male vote
 
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White knights make me laugh. Thanks for the laugh buddy
You got me down wrong, I've been on the dark side for years. :2razz:

That's how I managed to elevate above caveman level.

Try it some time.:mrgreen:
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

This is how I see it....as I move through middle age.:) Most folks are shades of purple....meaning that they lean blue on some issues and red on other issues. It is the extreme fringe...who slants far right or left...no matter the issue. They are loyal to party whether the issue or proposal is absurd or not. The extreme left is walking away from accountability while the far right would prefer the dark ages. Thank goodness...most are a different shade of purple.

I would agree with that
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

Now now.

First of all, women don't earn as much as men. Otherwise, you wouldn't hear all this "equal pay" movement nonsense. I believe, and this is my man memory at work here ie I'd have to look it up, women are pulling in around 75 percent what men are.

Anyways, you're asking me to rationalize the erratic behavior of young people. Worse yet, you're asking me to rationalize the behavior of emotional young women. It can't be done, because most of them aren't rational by nature.

Young people and women vote for stupid emotional things like social issues....while more rational and wise people vote with their wallets.

You could try reading. I am talking about younger women. While women make less for the same work regardless, the younger gen is more educated and career ambitious than same-aged men on the whole, so they get better paying jobs and make more money in absolute terms.

Actually, I'm pointing out your own erratic rationalizations, probably intended to protect your own ego. It makes perfect sense for empowered young women to reject the party of rape apologists, forced childbearing, anti-women's healthcare, and misogyny in general. No rationalization necessary; that's just common sense.
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

Liberal politicians pretend they care by taking your money and buying the votes of others
Yeah, its not as lucrative as selling your vote the way cons do, with a big kick after public service as a consultant..and then back again..get in that revolving door!
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

It's easy to be charitable when you're spending someone else's money

What makes it someone else's? Are you saying liberals don't pay taxes? Or that tax money should only go to the wealthy? People in this country pay taxes as part of our society. Those taxes belong to society. So when society decides to help those less fortunate, it is not someone else's money, it is our money. It is part of our values as America to take care of the less fortunate, to help those in need. Which I believe based on other posts I've seen you make is not only the will of your country, but the will of your God. And yet here you sit in defiance of your own God, and your own country whining because hungry people get to eat. That's not very Christian or American of you.
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

some would argue correctly that handouts really don't help and its not compassionate to give away the money of others so the recipients worship you.

As I just explained, taxes are not your money.
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

You could try reading. I am talking about younger women. While women make less for the same work regardless, the younger gen is more educated and career ambitious than same-aged men on the whole, so they get better paying jobs and make more money in absolute terms.

Actually, I'm pointing out your own erratic rationalizations, probably intended to protect your own ego. It makes perfect sense for empowered young women to reject the party of rape apologists, forced childbearing, anti-women's healthcare, and misogyny in general. No rationalization necessary; that's just common sense.

So, in summary, emotion and social issues.

Also, even if they're equal earners (which they aren't), women are still more vulnerable. They can be stuck with a kid they don't want, for one, whereas a man can only be stuck with a kid if the government makes him.

Also, a lot of the success women are finding in the workplace is due to quotas and such, another government handout.

I can understand why they would tend to vote democrat.

We're really not in disagreement, you're just upset at me calling a spade a spade and saying women are generally more vulnerable and tend to vimote for the party of handouts that takes care of them
 
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Yeah, its not as lucrative as selling your vote the way cons do, with a big kick after public service as a consultant..and then back again..get in that revolving door!

I have no clue how that is responsive to what I said. The fact is Democrats buy votes by promising handouts paid for by others, Republicans buy votes by telling those who actually are net tax payers, that the GOP will take less of your money.
 
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As I just explained, taxes are not your money.

Damn right, they appear as if by magic. I believe unicorns are involved, but I'm not sure
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

As I just explained, taxes are not your money.

Opinion noted and rejected as BS. its our money taken from us by government. and its not society that makes the decision, its the politicians. most Americans haven't a clue what the government really does to waste our money. But then again, I don't buy into the idiocy that all wealth belongs to the government either. I see government as a necessary evil that is given way too much love by lots of numb-brained Sheeple. Some parts of government are good. Lots of people who work for the government are fine people. but those who worship government or think its generally right are deluded IMHO
 
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What makes it someone else's? Are you saying liberals don't pay taxes? Or that tax money should only go to the wealthy? People in this country pay taxes as part of our society. Those taxes belong to society. So when society decides to help those less fortunate, it is not someone else's money, it is our money. It is part of our values as America to take care of the less fortunate, to help those in need. Which I believe based on other posts I've seen you make is not only the will of your country, but the will of your God. And yet here you sit in defiance of your own God, and your own country whining because hungry people get to eat. That's not very Christian or American of you.

Ha.

Is the governments money YOUR money? No. Then by default, you're voting to spend someone else's money.

In spite of how noble you think that might be, it's really not.
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

Once you pay money to something, taxes for example, the money is no longer yours.

So Robin Hood didn't really give away other pls money, once he stole it it became his money. Got it.
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

Ha.

Is the governments money YOUR money? No. Then by default, you're voting to spend someone else's money.

In spite of how noble you think that might be, it's really not.
one of the most pernicious problems in this country is representation without taxation
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

So, in summary, emotion and social issues.

Also, even if they're equal earners (which they aren't), women are still more vulnerable. They can be stuck with a kid they don't want, for one, whereas a man can only be stuck with a kid if the government makes him.

Also, a lot of the success women are finding in the workplace is due to quotas and such, another government handout.

I can understand why they would tend to vote democrat.

We're really not in disagreement, you're just upset at me calling a spade a spade and saying women are generally more vulnerable and tend to vimote for the party of handouts that takes care of them

If you feel like you are getting stuck with a child, or the government has to force you, you shouldn't be having children. Caring and providing for your children doesn't make someone weak or vulnerable, it just makes them responsible.
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

So Robin Hood didn't really give away other pls money, once he stole it it became his money. Got it.

actually robin hood was returning the money to those who had it stolen by a corrupt and illegitimate government
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

Opinion noted and rejected as BS. its our money taken from us by government. and its not society that makes the decision, its the politicians. most Americans haven't a clue what the government really does to waste our money. But then again, I don't buy into the idiocy that all wealth belongs to the government either. I see government as a necessary evil that is given way too much love by lots of numb-brained Sheeple. Some parts of government are good. Lots of people who work for the government are fine people. but those who worship government or think its generally right are deluded IMHO

The government does plenty wrong, far more than they do right. But feeding the hungry is not one of those wrongs.
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

Ha.

Is the governments money YOUR money? No. Then by default, you're voting to spend someone else's money.

In spite of how noble you think that might be, it's really not.

No. Taxes belong to the country. And using tax dollars to feed those hungry is always the right thing to do.
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

The government does plenty wrong, far more than they do right. But feeding the hungry is not one of those wrongs.

oh I disagree. what the federal government does is to create dependency and need. that is the main reason why some pimps in office pretend that the federal government-which was never given any proper power to do so-has to "feed the poor". the last thing those pimps want is a world where no one is hungry, needy or has to beg big brother to take care of them. such an environment would doom the careers of those whose main campaign schtick is "caring for the poor" in order to get power
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

So Robin Hood didn't really give away other pls money, once he stole it it became his money. Got it.

Who stole your money? You choose to live here. You choose to work here. And you agree to pay taxes. To quote an endless stream of right wingers, if you don't like you don't have to stay.
 
Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

If you feel like you are getting stuck with a child, or the government has to force you, you shouldn't be having children. Caring and providing for your children doesn't make someone weak or vulnerable, it just makes them responsible.

Responsible and vulnerable aren't mutually exclusive in any way.

In fact, they're fairly unrelated, conceptually, above the basic "vulnerable...bad....responsible....good....ooga ooga" kind of way.

Take away government aid and institute the law of the jungle, and women are more vulnerable for a myriad of reasons, not least of which being the fact that women can get preggers.

Smokeandmirrors actually even aluded to this by mentioning reproductive health and forced pregnancy (two ways of saying the same thing) as reasons young women such as herself vote democrat.

Bigger govt equals more protection for vulnerable classes
 
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