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    3 33.33%
  • American Suburban Women are Liberal Voters

    6 66.67%
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    Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Nope, they don't. Married women are still more Democrat than Republican. I've posted the many survey results showing this before on Ryan's threads "asking" this same question.
    Cool I didn't catch them. I googled it quickly and came up with this: Put a Ring on It: Obama Wins Women, but Not the Married Types - ABC News

    Married women picked Romney over Obama it seems.

    Regardless, if it were up to me, women wouldn't be voting anyway. But I'm old fashioned.

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    Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There is far more to economic risk taking than investment patterns. Many women who are involved in economic decisions do not invest in the stock market, or only do so through a 401k. You are trying to take a specific group of women, and assume that the actions they take are representative of all women, and that simply does not work.
    If you have any evidence that demonstrates that investment decisions are a particular outlier in women's economic risk aversion, please present it.

    You don't, mind you, which is why you are reduced to not being able to make any actual counter arguments yourself.

    No, but understand that investing in the stock market is selecting a certain group based on the actions they take, and assuming that how they take those actions applies to all. That does not work well.
    We are studying the economic risk aversion of women - it comes back with a result that women are more risk averse. If you think that is untrue, then demonstrate it.

    Well, no. Not only are you making generalizations about a large group based on a specific subset of that groups actions, you have then assumed that this is the motivation for unrelated actions. That is what is known as a non sequitur. It does not follow.
    On the contrary, there is a clear logical link between higher economic risk aversion and voting for the party that also presents higher economic risk aversion.
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    Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Cool I didn't catch them. I googled it quickly and came up with this: Put a Ring on It: Obama Wins Women, but Not the Married Types - ABC News

    Married women picked Romney over Obama it seems.

    Regardless, if it were up to me, women wouldn't be voting anyway. But I'm old fashioned.
    That's only because older people show up to the polls more. Total, married women are still liberal leaning.

    Yes, we're aware of your well-reasoned and not at all personal complex-driven views on the subject.

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    Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

    It depends on how far out in the burbs they live. Older established closer in suburbs are typically going to be liberal while further out newer suburbs are typically going to be conservative.
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    Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Not really true, married women tend to lean republican while unmarried women lean democrat.

    Correct. She's just wrong.

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    Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    That's only because older people show up to the polls more. Total, married women are still liberal leaning.

    Yes, we're aware of your well-reasoned and not at all personal complex-driven views on the subject.
    The simplest way to look at it is ppl who feel like they can't hack it on their own, people who need "help" and a crutch typically vote democrat.

    People who believe in being self sufficient, people who are confident in their own abilities and who don't require handouts tend to vote Republican.

    Married women are more Republican than unmarried women because they have a husband to take care of them, ie they don't need the government as much.

    Your more vulnerable groups....unmarried women, minorities, poor folks, etc....they tend to be your democratic voters.

    That's a rule of thumb. Of course there are ideologs who diverge from this model

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    Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He has a long history of trying to understand woman voters, and failing badly. I think his first mistake is he seems to think they do things en masse. The reality of course is much different.
    Don't all people of a certain gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, age group,
    Or class always do everything in mass?
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    Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

    Amazing when liberals try to argue that the red of red suburbs, which are full of women soccer moms and the like, are somehow "Liberal voters" even though those very suburbs almost never go blue for Democrats.


    Then again this is the internet full of urban angry single women so this isn't exactly surprising having such inaccurate views pushed so heavily. These are the same urban liberal single women who, and I remember this very well on political forums at the time, were radically insistent that Kerry was going to beat Bush.

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    Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The simplest way to look at it is ppl who feel like they can't hack it on their own, people who need "help" and a crutch typically vote democrat.

    People who believe in being self sufficient, people who are confident in their own abilities and who don't require handouts tend to vote Republican.

    Married women are more Republican than unmarried women because they have a husband to take care of them, ie they don't need the government as much.

    Your more vulnerable groups....unmarried women, minorities, poor folks, etc....they tend to be your democratic voters.

    That's a rule of thumb. Of course there are ideologs who diverge from this model
    So people looking for a handout vote Democrat? People who work don't? I don't really lean either way, so don't take it as a liberal jumping defensively here, but where do you come up with this crap?
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    Re: Are "Suburban American Women" Conservative or Liberal Voters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The simplest way to look at it is ppl who feel like they can't hack it on their own, people who need "help" and a crutch typically vote democrat.

    People who believe in being self sufficient, people who are confident in their own abilities and who don't require handouts tend to vote Republican.

    Married women are more Republican than unmarried women because they have a husband to take care of them, ie they don't need the government as much.

    Your more vulnerable groups....unmarried women, minorities, poor folks, etc....they tend to be your democratic voters.

    That's a rule of thumb. Of course there are ideologs who diverge from this model
    Ok. Then explain why younger women are overwhelmingly Democrats despite making not only good money, but making considerably more than their male counterparts, and even married women maintain a Democratic lean. That seems to blow your theory out of the water. I mean, you are aware women can have their own incomes now, right? What do they need men for, financially speaking? Most of my gen is making better money than our male peers, and a lot of us have no intention of stopping and sitting at home. When we date or marry, it's sure as hell not for grocery money.

    Maybe it's just that women don't care for all the misogynist nonsense Republicans are always spewing? Dunno. That's what my woman-brain is inclined to think, anyway, what with their grossly permissive rape remarks, attacks on all forms of female reproductive healthcare, and hostility towards working women in general. But I suppose they seem overly progressive to you, so you probably don't notice. The mere existence of women in the public world seems to bother you, much less when they compete with you.

    Nope, no complex going on with you, none at all...

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