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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Again, pesky facts get in your way. None of the ACA supporters said "the cost of medical care will stop growing completely," and spending has in fact slowed down. This was even cited as a factor in the low GDP for Q1 2014.



    Did you actually read the article?

    It discusses small businesses... and is dated March 1, 2014. It was an estimate of a policy that still hasn't kicked in yet.

    Meanwhile, the CBO has found that premiums have in fact risen more slowly than in the past, and this is (yet again) revising the cost of the law downward because... wait for it... the cost of care, including premiums, has slowed down compared to past years. It will save the government money in the long term, despite providing health care to more people.
    Obamacare’s projected cost falls due to lower premiums under health care law, CBO says - The Washington Post

    Projected Health Spending Has Fallen Since 2010, Even With Health Reform

    And no, I do not weep for a very small number of Hahvad profs who are upset over changes in their health care... nor does that actually prove anything about the larger trends.



    Thank you for demonstrating that you have no idea what I'm referring to.

    I'm referring to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. In case you missed it, credit card agencies and retail banks have spent the past decade or so increasingly tightening the screws on consumers. Interest rates go up when you miss a car payment; banks routinely add small fees and costs; cell phone companies illegally bill customers, and so on. Left to their own devices, those financial actors have made life much worse for consumers. That's exactly the type of function government should handle -- it should set up and enforce rules that ensure consumers are treated fairly by financial institutions.



    Uh, no, I'm not dreaming. I'm reading the news, and it is not lost on anyone who is actually paying attention that Republicans in Congress are doing everything they can to torpedo the deal. Meanwhile, just talking to the government of Iran is a huge change.



    lol

    I can face the fact that people right of center decided, before Obama was sworn in, that he'd be a lousy president. No problem with that one.
    Spending has slowed down because people can't afford health care costs after being forced to buy insurance they didn't want. Result...they are still going to hospital emergency room and the taxpayers are still footing the bill. This was something Obamacare was supposed to stop. It didn't. Which illustrates a point about Obama supporters in general and Obamacare supporters in particular: They interchangeably use diverse and different terms. Costs/spending, health care/insurance, etc. Kind of hard to have a meaningful discussion when talking to a person who switches terms in mid-stream.

    Oh, and btw, the cost of Obamacare itself is another issue. The biggest problem with this issue is that, in my opinion, it's cost...even if less than Obama and his buddies predicted, which it's not...is still way too much and wasn't necessary at all to achieve their stated goal. It is simply another example of the Democrat's tendency to throw massive amounts of money at a perceived problem with the result of more spending, more government control...more big government. And the goal isn't ever met.

    I could go on and address your other points, but your apologies for Obama...such as your contention that getting Iran to talk is an accomplishment (it's not...they will gladly talk until you get tired and still nothing will be accomplished)...will never end.

    In any event, Obama will never be considered anything other than a lousy President by the American public...except, of course, by his useful idiots.
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    He's done fine, considering the mess he started with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    For those who obviously haven't been paying attention to anything but the Left Wing media apologists for his adminsistration from Day One, here is a synopsis of his presidency up to the time of the writing of this article.



    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/2...rd-of-failure/
    What president hasn't failed

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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Quote Originally Posted by sickentired View Post
    He's done fine, considering the mess he started with
    He's made the " mess " worse.

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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Quote Originally Posted by sickentired View Post
    What president hasn't failed
    We are talking STAGGERING failures. Across the board.

    And not only that, he has broken the law repeatedly and has been allowed to do so without accountability.

    And his scandals are numerous.

    The most notable being Benghazi.

    And Obamacare showed us that not only did he lie, (and yes, I know that all Presidents lie) but Obama lied to us for his own benefit! That is a first, in recent times anyway, IINM.

    That is a deal breaker.

    But apparently you will allow anyone to do anything to you if you like em.

    OOOPS, wait a minute...sorry.

    I forgot about this one.





    With all due respect, sickentired, if you aren't sick and tired of what OBAMA has done to this country, I would HATE to see what DOES make you sick and tired!

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    IMO the boldness displayed with the red line was legendary not only great, and entertaining the mourning French with James Taylor has improved relations with not only the French, but the entire world. Race relations especially with the police after beer summit have brought us all closer together and we now have a more caring and loving military and better health insurance due to this legendary president Obama.
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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Great? Not even close.

    I believe that history will put him somewhere in the lower 1/4 of all Presidents, though not at or near the absolute bottom.

    Side note: I also believe that history cannot accurately judge a President until 30 to 50 years after they leave office.
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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Pretty standard right-winger, notable only for the extreme racist reaction of the Republicans.

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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    A great leader, a great President, is one who by his very force of will and righteousness can inspire a country to follow him where he wants to lead them. Can anyone name one issue where President Obama has displayed such greatness?
    That just defines a strong leader (IMO). A great leader does that AND gains positive results.

    Obama does neither, btw. I've been thinking of Obama as nothing more than a "caretaker" President, lately.
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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    Obama has been a pretty good president but not great. Once the wrinkles get sorted out the ACA will be looked back on as a good idea with weak implementation. His foreign policy has been weak but not as bad as our former leader. His policies helped get us out of the recession but other policies conservative and liberal could of been better. His efforts to reduce climate change has been beneficial and if China holds up on their end of the bargain, the world will be much better.
    I predict ACA will begin to be dismantled within 15-20 years in favor of single-payer.
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