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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    What the heck do tomatoes have to do with anything?
    Historically, rotten tomatoes were thrown at performers to get them off the stage. GWB invaded a nation that wasn't involved in 911, in response to 911, costing thousands of American soldiers' lives -- and hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians -- put the multi-trillion dollar bill on the national credit card, and basically destabilized the entire Middle East (empowering Iran, creating ISIS, etc.). So you placing GWB above Obama and Carter is deserving of a proverbial tomato or two.

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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Historically, rotten tomatoes were thrown at performers to get them off the stage. GWB invaded a nation that wasn't involved in 911, in response to 911, costing thousands of American soldiers' lives -- and hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians -- put the multi-trillion dollar bill on the national credit card, and basically destabilized the entire Middle East (empowering Iran, creating ISIS, etc.). So you placing GWB above Obama and Carter is deserving of a proverbial tomato or two.
    So the man wasn't perfect, hence the C+/B- rating. He went into Iraq with the intelligence he had at the time, which may not have been in hindsight, accurate, but it was what he had at the time.

    After 9/11 I think most people were ready to blow the entire region off the face of the earth. Reminds me of President Bartlet in the 2nd episode of The West Wing when he found out an American plane had been shot down by the Syrians and said that he was "gonna blow them off the face of the Earth with the fury of God's own thunder." Anyway TV lines aside, I think that's what people wanted us to do after 9/11, so we went into Iraq, even though they had nothing to do with the whole thing because intelligence told us that Saddam still had WMD's. I think he hid them somewhere in the desert and never told, because Lord knows we never found them. We knew bin laden was out there somewhere, and got him. By then he was just a figurehead in al queada anyway. Like I said it obviously was a mistake, but everyone thought the intelligence reports were good at the time.
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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    So the man wasn't perfect, hence the C+/B- rating.
    Name one thing Obama or Carter did that was as bad as a multi-trillion dollar war that cost thousands of American lives and destabilized a large chunk of the planet.

    He went into Iraq with the intelligence he had at the time, which may not have been in hindsight, accurate, but it was what he had at the time.
    Cheney and Rumsfeld launched an intelligence operation that was designed to give credibility to faulty intelligence, as long as it was linked to Iraq.

    After 9/11 I think most people were ready to blow the entire region off the face of the earth.
    A good leader actually leads people in a positive direction, they don't misdirect the anger of people to support an unprovoked war.

    I think he hid them somewhere in the desert and never told, because Lord knows we never found them.
    He never had them.

    We knew bin laden was out there somewhere, and got him.
    Bush didn't get Bin Laden. He actually said that he didn't care about Bin Laden.

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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Name one thing Obama or Carter did that was as bad as a multi-trillion dollar war that cost thousands of American lives and destabilized a large chunk of the planet.
    Cheney and Rumsfeld launched an intelligence operation that was designed to give credibility to faulty intelligence, as long as it was linked to Iraq.
    A good leader actually leads people in a positive direction, they don't misdirect the anger of people to support an unprovoked war.
    He never had them.
    Bush didn't get Bin Laden. He actually said that he didn't care about Bin Laden.
    How about let's focus on Obama's spending us into near collapse? He's already spent more than all other Presidents combined! Also by bailing out of Iraq he pretty much let ISIS take over. They were lying in wait for a chance to pounce. I guess you forgot 9/11 when we were ready to blow the entire region off the face of the earth. WOW and you wonder why things are worse now? Saddam had WMD's somewhere. He likely hid them in Syria or someplace that can do a lot of damage to the rest of world if they are ever uncovered. Also Bush may not have been the one to get bin laden, but at least to Obama's credit he was smart enough to stick with GWB's plan. Also I guess you forgot the "Dead or Alive" posters GWB had made up? If he said he didn't care about bin laden anymore, it could easily have been a ruse to throw the terrorists off guard to make them think we gave up the hunt when in reality....................................
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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    How about let's focus on Obama's spending us into near collapse? He's already spent more than all other Presidents combined! Also by bailing out of Iraq he pretty much let ISIS take over. They were lying in wait for a chance to pounce. I guess you forgot 9/11 when we were ready to blow the entire region off the face of the earth. WOW and you wonder why things are worse now? Saddam had WMD's somewhere. He likely hid them in Syria or someplace that can do a lot of damage to the rest of world if they are ever uncovered. Also Bush may not have been the one to get bin laden, but at least to Obama's credit he was smart enough to stick with GWB's plan. Also I guess you forgot the "Dead or Alive" posters GWB had made up? If he said he didn't care about bin laden anymore, it could easily have been a ruse to throw the terrorists off guard to make them think we gave up the hunt when in reality....................................
    I'd have to de-evolve myself to respond to this nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I'd have to de-evolve myself to respond to this nonsense.
    Its not nonsense its reality. Obama really is that bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Its not nonsense its reality. Obama really is that bad.
    I'm mostly talking about the GWB fanfic you wrote and tried to pass off as political commentary.

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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I'm mostly talking about the GWB fanfic you wrote and tried to pass off as political commentary.
    Still have a short memory? Did you sleep through the first 8 years of this century? I really do wonder
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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    I'm still alive so in that regards he's been adequate.

    Foreign policy, I would say one of the worst ever. Our enemies are stronger and our allies dont trust us.

    I was surprised and happy with the way he has kept us safe from terrorism but he blew it by the way he's handled Iran and Isis.

    If i had to describe him in one word, I would say "soft". I think we need somone fresh, with strong leadership skills and with a backbone.

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    Re: Has Obama been a "Great" US President? (in your personal opinion)?

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Still have a short memory? Did you sleep through the first 8 years of this century? I really do wonder
    The problem is that you don't have enough information for me to engage you in a discussion on this issue. I'd have to put in effort to educate you, and it would be for naught.

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